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FORMULA 1 JOHNNIE WALKER BELGIAN GRAND PRIX 2019: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

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  1. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Leclerc is a class act .
     
  2. jcurry

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    Ferrari has troubles on the MED tire, and Seb more so than Charles. Have all year. They tend to avoid it at all cost, but had no choice today.
     
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  3. ingegnere

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    Pretty sure Vettel was going to get passed by one or two Mercs if he didn't pit and he was complaining already about the tires going off so had already psyched himself out of contention.

    With the strategy Ferrari got Vettel in a position to slow HAM down for a few laps which proved critical to the win, so no complaints about strategy.

    As for looking bad, Vettel took care of that all by himself today by missing two opportunities to attack Leclerc - going wide at La Source at the start and again at La Source by locking up at the restart.
     
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    Congrats to Leclerc! Good drive, well deserved
     
  5. sampelligrino

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    Well said & agreed

    Seems like we eeked this one out by the skin of our teeth, on a track and conditions that favored us. Hope the team can use this to work even harder to get the car and pace to be more competitive. Don’t forget Max also out today, who has proven to be just as equal if not better this season... Mercs looked unflappable today per usual, even with Lewis complaining


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  6. DGS

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    Vettel seems to be trashing his tires, out there.
    Okay, granted, he was playing catch-up to re-take 2nd, then brake-checked the Mercs, flat-spotting his tires.
    But he didn't get much mileage out of his second set.
    And got nowhere with the softs at the end. (Not counting the off-track excursion.)

    Vettel needs to bring his A game to Monza, even as second to Leclerc.

    I kinda expected the French flag and anthem. I had to look up that flag. ;) (Monaco)
     
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    Well done Charles. Really happy for him, hopefully the kick off of many many many more. He is exciting to watch.
    Good race by Hamilton, he almost had it.
     
  8. ingegnere

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    #233 ingegnere, Sep 1, 2019
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    Leclerc's pace on the (M) was pretty good but the drop off started earlier than on the Mercs, and the Merc's (M) had one and two laps less respectively for HAM and BOT. Vettel, for some reason, also killed his (S) prematurely.

    Leclerc said after Hungary that he would take lessons from how he over-stressed the tires there and learn from it. Seems he did just that.
     
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  9. bmwracer

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    Purely hypothetical as I can’t read Vettel’s mind but he looks lost and dejected , something going on there , been coming for a while and it is becoming more and more apparent . I think he has lost his edge , he has had his flaws over the years but he still is a champion , he just isn’t driving like a champion .
     
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    Realistically, I think CL’s victory doesn’t happen without Vettel running interference. The car’s power is great, but the aero package leaves it vulnerable at the end of a run. It was certainly faster over a single lap today and maybe the early and mid portions of a stint. But it falls off precipitously in the latter portion of the tire life. CL’s car was on ice skates those final 3 laps. Managing that final lap with back-markers, yellow flags (Gio crash), and Hamilton attacking while sliding through every directional change was more impressive than we may realize.
     
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    My take; Seb got Eclair his first win. The Fezza needs work, nothing we haven’t known since the start of the season and we should expect Mercs to win the remainder if this was one of our best tracks. They’re a formidable villain ;).
     
  12. F2003-GA

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    Leclerc's a SUPERSTAR
     
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    Checo on heavy tire wear tracks is a phenom. Smart thinking for Point to sign him again. He’s deceptively adept, has great instincts and is incredibly savvy, possibly the best 2nd seat driver a front line team could have. And Lando needs a seat in the top three.
     
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  14. ricksb

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    The Scuderia May be strong at Monza also, but the same issue will pop up again next week. Red Bull May show up at Singapore and Mexico. Some intrigue, but Merc/Ham are pretty well lined up at this point.
     
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    Max going out so abruptly and unceremoniously adjusted the actual racing drama, not to mention the results. Albon going from 17th to 5th gives some insight on what Max could have done today.

    As it should be, the dominant storyline is the shocking and tragic death of Antoine Hubert. Just when the fan gets lulled into thinking racing is mostly safe, a forceful reminder is provided. Prayers sent for Hubert’s family, friends, teammates, and associates. The pictures of his Mom are almost too much for me to look at.

    Both happy and sad for Charles. First win, but forever linked to unimaginable sadness. Only consolation will be that this win will be followed rapidly by dozens and dozens of others. The guy has incomparable talent and is just getting started.

    Lastly, poor Norris. The dumbest of dumb luck.
     
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    I could not agree more. Vettel gives off a sad mix of resignation and forlornness. Elite athletes know long before anyone else that they can no longer bring it the way they once could.
     
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    Get used to this. You're going to hear it quite a lot in the future.

     
  18. sampelligrino

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    You guys must have already forgotten the German GP, or Canada, etc...

    I think some are mistaking some blunders from Ferrari for being on Seb. He hasn't helped himself in some cases certainly, but given the pressure and what he's had to work with IMO he's doing as good of a job as any. Even today helping Charles win and letting him pass instantly as requested recognizing what would benefit the team. I don't think swapping Seb out for someone else, other than developmental reasons for the future, does the team any good for this moment.. the pace/package just doesn't seem consistently good, seems like the team is trying to plug holes each race and figure things out as they go. That aint helping Seb out, I'd probably be bummed too seeing Lewis on his way to a 6th championship and continued dominance

    Looking towards the future is different and maybe Seb's runway is closing, but I sure hope Maranello can pull it together next year for Seb if he's still with us and maybe give him a proper send off into retirement

    sure would be nice!
     
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    Hope this one will follow just alter
     
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  20. ATBNM3

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    Huge Congrats to Charles amazing job. Awesome job by Hamilton and Bottas getting around Vettel. Vettel, its time to retire
     
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    Yep. Max ****ed his own race as well as Kimi's. Blockhead.
     
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    Completely agree. And the first words out of his mouth were "what was he doing?" Moron.
     
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    Pure evidence they dont 'need' Vettel at all now. He has been over shadowed completely this year. He needs to leave before it becomes worse in reputation now for him. Albon seems immensley adaptable and smooth. Gain him or Bottas and move Vettel aside and get the future moving at Ferrari....................
     
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  24. Sig. Roma

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    Max doing what he did best, crashing and blaming everyone else. He is “Vercrashen”


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    They pitted Vettel too early. I for one think that Seb did a great job as a wingman today, a la Bottas.
     
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