FORMULA 1 OOREDOO QATAR GRAND PRIX 2021 - Lusail - RACE... ▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS▄▀▄▀▄▀

I like how you think and can take a joke my friend!

 

So basically they're making it so the last race will decide it all and they'll be even going into it at this rate...

 

Alternatively, Verstappen can crash out with Hamilton in Saudi (new track, better excuses) and finish second in Abu Dhabi while Hamilton wins.

 

That sounds very risky to me. Couldn't the FIA strip him of all his points for the season? And I don't think that is the way either driver, nor their teams, want to win.

 

Is it risky? Sure it is. Schumacher lost all his points in 1997. So you need to do it wisely, like what Verstappen did in Monza this year. If he didn't crash out with Hamilton that race, Hamilton would gain more points by now.

Is it a way that a driver / a teams wants to win? Absolutely! That's winner's mentality. The end result matters, especially if Verstappen has no other choice given how superior Hamilton's car is at the moment. I assume Schumacher, Senna, all the greats will do the same in this situation.

 

If in the end he is second or lose all his points I don’t think it makes any difference for him.

 

Max already won this title and he knows it, everyone knows it, the FIA stamp on it won't make much diference i guess. It will to merc and elton, because it's the only way to try and legitimate what they lost on the track.

 

Toto didn’t even hide it his post race comments. He referred to it as their “spicy” engine from Brazil. If that’s not a Freudian slip I don’t know what is.

 

LOL - Hide? A perfectly legal engine. Post the new conspiracy. He has 2 motors. One from Turkey and Brazil. He can use either one. RedBull can do the same.

 

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Winner mentality ?
No- Michael Jordan is a winner by any means if necessary, what my idol Senna did and MS in 97 was pure wrong.


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Oh, sorry. I just woke up.
Did I miss something?

 

Naaaaaaa

 

Upgrading an engine mid season is not allowed, only mid season upgrade that's allowed is a reliability upgrade.

Mercedes massively upped the power on their engine and admitted that it would decrease reliability of the engine ''because so few races are left''. How is decreasing reliability a ''reliability upgrade"?

Red Bull can't do the same. Their ICE degradation is very low (.1 between new engine and old).

 

Isn't anyone in the motoring press mystified by the incredible power advantage Lewis demonstrated in Brazil, or is it all down to his genius as a driver? Virtually NO discussion of this. Mercedes writes their own rules and everyone quietly falls into line. F1 has become a farce. Welcome to the WWE!

 

I would speculate Mercedes has taken a fresher engine and modified the mapping to get more out of it for the few remaining races and not worry so much about endurance - as long as it survives the remaining races! If other teams are prepared to take the penalty, surely they could do the same thing. As with Mercedes, perhaps the performance mapping trumps the penalty - as long as the ICU can handle a higher performance map?

 

The very much British based press agreed that the questionable & sudden performance gain is totally irrelevant, and it must be down to His Lewisness' brilliance. Despite him really struggling the past few races. Nothing suspicious at all, Sir.

 

The engine a manufacturer gives to their customers MUST be of the same spec. However, good luck for 1 such teams to speak out against them...

 

Not surprised….

https://www.planetf1.com/news/valtteri-bottas-different-spec-lewis-hamilton/

 

Bravo Fernando
https://www.planetf1.com/news/alain-prost-fernando-alonso-best-driver-in-formula-1/

 

Interesting assessment of the kerb issues of Qatar - https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/bizarre-quirk-of-qatar-kerbs-caused-f1-problems-reckons-mercedes/6812019/

Bizarre quirk of Qatar kerbs caused F1 problems, reckons Mercedes
By: Jonathan Noble
Co-author: Adam Cooper
Nov 23, 2021, 4:13 AM
The brutal car damage dished out by the kerbs at Formula 1's Losail circuit was a result of them not being aggressive enough, reckons Mercedes.
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A number of drivers hit trouble over the Qatar weekend as they suffered car and tyre damage throughout the event.

Charles Leclerc and Nikita Mazepin both had to swap chassis following damage caused by kerb strikes, while Pierre Gasly smashed a front wing that triggered a puncture at the end of qualifying.

In the race, it is suspected that the repeated running over the kerbs played a part in the tyre failures that were suffered by Valtteri Bottas, Lando Norris and Williams duo George Russell and Nicholas Latifi.

Rather than the issue being that the kerbs were too rough, Mercedes head of trackside engineering Andrew Shovlin says the situation was so difficult because the kerbs were actually too low – so there was no deterrent to running over them.

"It is strange because the issue is that they are actually quite smooth, so therefore you can run all over them," he explained.

"When you run all over them, the front wings are very low to the ground and they are being clipped, plus the tyres are being hit pretty hard by them.

"In a bizarre way, if they were more aggressive it would probably be easier for the cars and the tyres.

"But the fact that you can get on them, and the quickest thing is to get on them as well, means you have got to do it here, and therein lies the risk."

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Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes W12

Photo by: Glenn Dunbar / Motorsport Images

F1 race director Michael Masi said that there was nothing unique about the kerb design at Losail, which are regularly in place at both MotoGP and F1 venues.

He cited the fact that the exit same kerb concepts are used without complaint at the final sequence of the Red Bull Ring in Austria.

"They're the standard FIA / FIM kerbs that we've seen at the last two corners at Austria forever," he said.

"I think one of the things is that drivers were trying to use everything to their full advantage."

Pirelli has opened an investigation in to what caused the tyre failures in the Qatar race, and will examine whether drivers abusing the kerbs was a key factor in the punctures.

The Italian tyre manufacturer's head of F1 and car racing Mario Isola said: "Any small debris, any kerb, can cause a small puncture.

"Then, losing air, the tyre when it's broken is not able to sustain the high level of energy that these cars are putting on the tyres."

 

Thanks for posting that, I was going to do the same. For being such a great driver and to be involved with Alpine, we very rarely seem to hear from Alain Prost. I'd rather hear from him than any more from Wolf and Horner at this point.

 

Nope, no one is interested in the reason the “spicy” engine blew past all their customer engines by 30 plus klicks. It’s all Lewis’ amazing skill at holding the wheel straight and pushing the throttle to the floor. It was a master class on straight away technique. He’s the greatest straight away driver of all time, just ask him. It’s pointless to try and pretend that the Brazil engine is a typical spec. When Seb and stroll took new engines a few races earlier, why didn’t they blow by every competitor? And their chassis is essentially a copy of the Merc.

 

Interesting about Fred. If Kimi and Michael had better reliability in 2005 and 2006 respectively Fred wouldn’t have been WDC. That said Fred had the best season I’ve ever seen in a bad car in the last ten years. The 2012 Ferrari was an evil handling car yet Fred almost won the WDC that year-would have won if he wasn’t taken out at the start in Spa. As for those people who think his skills have diminished he gave Lewis a driving lesson in Hungary this year despite Lewis having a car 2+ seconds a lap quicker. Coming from Prost that is quite a compliment.