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  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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  2. DF1

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    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fia-moves-to-avoid-f1-traffic-chaos-at-monza/10514836/

    FIA moves to avoid F1 traffic chaos at Monza
    The FIA has taken extra steps to avoid traffic chaos in qualifying for Formula 1's Italian Grand Prix by expanding the use of minimum lap times.

    F1 qualifying, and that of its junior formulae F2 and F3, has often been derailed by drivers backing up at the end of out-laps to find clear air for their push laps.

    That has caused major bottlenecks ahead of the final corner at most races, particularly at the recent Austrian and Belgian grands prix.

    In Monza's Friday F3 qualifying, traffic congestion caused a collision, with the session red-flagged after contact between Rodin Carlin driver Ido Cohen and team-mate Ollie Gray as the field bunched up in traffic.

    The FIA regularly clamps down on drivers driving too slowly on in-laps, imposing minimum times between the second and first safety car line, which covers the entire circuit apart from the pitlane area.

    But at Monza it has now expanded that rule to apply to any laps, crucially including out-laps, to avoid traffic woes getting out of hand.

    In an addendum to FIA race director Niels Wittich's event notes published on Saturday morning, he wrote the following:

    "4.2 For the safe and orderly conduct of the Event, other than in exceptional circumstances accepted as such by the Stewards, any driver that exceeds 1min 41sec from the Second Safety Car Line to the First Safety Car Line on ANY lap during and after the end of the qualifying session, including in-laps and out-laps, may be deemed to be going unnecessarily slowly.


    "For the avoidance of doubt, this does not supersede Art. 33.4 and Art. 37.5 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations, which apply to the entire Circuit. Incidents will normally be investigated after the qualifying session."

    Traffic issues are compounded by Monza's high-speed layout, which forces drivers to find a tow from the car ahead to boost straight-line speeds. That also means that drivers are reluctant to be the first car in the queue, further encouraging the practice of backing each other up.

    In qualifying for the 2019 edition, drivers backing off at the end of Q3 led to a whole train of cars not making in across the line for their final qualifying attempt before the timer had run out.
     
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  3. Bas

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    Good.
     
  4. DF1

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    Should be a permanent change for every race!
     
  5. Bas

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    yup
     
  6. jgonzalesm6

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    So due to an oil leak, Perez gets an older engine replacement.
     
  7. pilotoCS

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    So now we see the level of Red Bull's sandbagging this weekend.
     
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  8. Bas

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    I think there's a genuine chance they won't be on the front row here. If they are, very likely by a tiny margin. Saturdays not been their strong point this year
     
  9. DF1

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    Stroll LOL
     
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  10. GuyIncognito

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    that was hectic :eek:

    good showing for Williams

    go home Lance :p
     
  11. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Sarge to Aston LOL! :)
     
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    He’s closer to Roland Garros than to next race.
     
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  13. DF1

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    ZERO favoritism :) :)
     
  14. jgonzalesm6

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    The slowest of the lot.....but not surprising really.
     
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  15. DF1

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    Good point !!
     
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  16. DF1

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    Tough weekend. His masseuse can relieve his pain.
     
  17. gh0st0

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    ferrari not respecting the delta, I wonder what that means for them
     
  18. GuyIncognito

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    why does sky keep interviewing Merc’s PR director? did Toto tell them to F off?
     
  19. jgonzalesm6

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    Grid penalties
     
  21. DF1

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    He has been on before. Different perspective possibly??
     
  22. jgonzalesm6

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  23. Bas

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    You don't want to change an engine here to be fair. DRS effect barely exists.
     
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  24. Bas

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    imagine them getting pole and they throw it away like this...

    It would be in true ferrari spirit, mind you
     
  25. tonyc

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    I think it means the clown show continues for another weekend :(
     

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