FORMULA 1 PIRELLI GRAND PRIX DU CANADA 2025 - Montreal....Race...............▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▄▀▄▀▄▀

precedent by the FIA has been either penalty points or a penalty, if retired it would be applied to next race.

Lando got a penalty for this race (that he already retired from) and no penalty points.

FIA remains consistently inconsistent.

 

An utterly irrelevant fact.

 

Facts are few and far between on these threads. Treasure it.

 

So if a driver is factually incompetent, he shouldn't be able to be punished?

 

LOL - Bas the punisher.

 

The last thing we need is for them to have penalties for every single incident. IMO there are far too many now as it is.

F1 has become a nonstop whining and crying fest for sissies. Drivers probably can’t even fart now without some team filing a complaint or getting a penalty.

Let them race like men.

 

They should race like women! Did you catch the FI Academy “highlights” on the broadcast? Seems they’re still in bumper car mode.

 

Lance gets 10s for pushing someone off the track but with no contact. Lando gets 5s for ramming someone, resulting in a SC and prematurely ending the race.

 

... and a French girl is leading the championship.

 

I agree. But those morons need to start implementing connsistency.

 

F1 is becoming like figure skating: decided by judges.

That's what happens when you make racing too sanitized.

 

"great gobs of greasy gofer guts"

 

I don’t see anything on his car. It’s just another excuse. Lol I guess

 

While not explicitly stated, it seemed as if Leclerc was happy with his hard tires and wanted to go longer, seemingly to attempt a 1 stop. I have not seen any discussion of this. Is it that outlandish an idea that it isn't being discussed? 10-15 additional laps on the hards and then 25-30 on the mediums with a significantly lower fuel load? Ferrari is occupying a position well behind the lead cars, and yet well in front of the midfield. Seems to me the worst that could have happened is Ferrari finishing in the exact same spots, just with Hamilton and Leclerc's finishing positions being switched. Not much risk for possibly some benefit.

 

The pit wall was pretty clearly concerned about tire deg for the mediums. Even after running two stints on the hards, they still held off longer than Leclerc wanted, citing concern for the medium tires lasting effectively.

So, I think the pit wall was extremely skeptical about a one-stop with a long medium stint. Were they correct? Who knows - the one-stoppers didn’t do particularly well in the race, did they?

 

I appreciate your points. But was there a 1 stopper who would have been expected to finish better if they'd done a 2 stopper?

Sainz and Ocon finished in the points with 1 stop. I'm not sure either of them would have if they'd done a 2 stopper.

 

I think the pit wall should give more weight to the opinion of the driver who is on the track. Or Leclerc should be more assertive. A one stop strategy was probably worth a try.

 

As Coulthard said on the F1TV broadcast, if you don't pull the car in, they can't change the tires!!!

 

They should have a parallel parking contest.

 

Well they emulate Max then lol

 

The Macca dog fight starts ...Oscar wont't take any crap from the spoiled one ...

 

This is the thing that perplexes me about Leclerc. He called his own strategy and the team ''agreed'' with it. Then a few laps later the team calls him in. Leclerc drives into the pitlane but questions them. If he doesn't agree, don't drive into the pit. The team can't force him to drive into the pit. If he's wrong he has to own his mistake but this is precisely what Sainz and Vettel did so often and it worked out more often than not. The Ferrari strategy team are still mostly idiots that occasionally accidentally pull of a half decent strategy. Only way to beat the idiocy is to assert dominance and own up to any mistakes he does make.

Wondering why he's pitting and then questioning the team doesn't help anyone in the end

 

Poor Team Horner - have to delay results, annoy fans and have it all rejected and even withdraw 1 of the protests. Fix your car, win on the track and shut it. Thought you were the cool team all about Racing and fans etc. Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Should be billed for the time and have it come off the RedBull Cost Cap total. Even Jos didnt comment lol.

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/petty-small-embarrassing-failed-red-bull-protest-angers-wolff/

Mercedes Formula 1 boss Toto Wolff has branded Red Bull’s failed protest against George Russell “so petty and so small”, and “just embarrassing”.

Red Bull lodged a protest against race winner Russell in the Canadian Grand Prix for allegedly driving erratically under the safety car and displaying unsportsmanlike behaviour by complaining over the team radio that Max Verstappen had overtaken him in the process.

Verstappen briefly moved ahead of Russell when they were behind the safety car in the closing laps of the race, after Russell braked and slowed.

Red Bull had suggested to Verstappen during the race that this was “gamesmanship” from Russell, the implication being that the race leader was trying to bait Verstappen into breaking the rules, with the four-time world champion one licence penalty point from a race ban.

The team then cemented its suspicion with its protest - the second time this season it has done so against Russell, after another unsuccessful one in Miami - and raised another issue regarding Russell being too far back from the safety car after slowing down.

That seems to have been withdrawn once it was quickly established that Russell had correctly respected his minimum time delta.

“Honestly, it's so petty and so small,” Wolff told Sky Sports F1 at the F1 movie premiere in New York.

“They've done it in Miami. Now they launched two protests. They took one back.

“I guess the FIA needs to look at that, because it's so far-fetched. It was rejected. You race, you win and you lose on track.

“That was a fair victory for us, like so many they had in the past, and it's just embarrassing.”

The protest that Red Bull stood by accused Russell of being “unnecessary and erratic” and violating the part of the FIA International Sporting Code that covers: “Any infringement of the principles of fairness in competition, behaviour in an unsportsmanlike manner or attempt to influence the result of a competition in a way that is contrary to sporting ethics.”

According to the stewards, Red Bull argued it could be inferred from Russell’s onboard camera showing he looked in his mirrors before he braked that he knew Verstappen was immediately behind and so he braked to force Verstappen to overtake and break the rules - and that Russell complained about the overtake on his team radio knowing that it would be overheard by race control in the hope that Verstappen would be investigated.

This was dismissed by the stewards, and Wolff noted it was not something Verstappen had cared much about post-race either - questioning Red Bull’s decision to pursue such a protest.

 

personally I see it as not to get win taken away from Woody but more in protection of Max having ''overtaken'' under SC and pointing out that the Russell brake test was reason for it and perhaps get a penalty point or two chucked at George. + of course this sets a precedent for when roles are reversed (i.e. Max lets gap to SC go to over 10 car lenghts, RBR can now show ''hold on, George didn't get a penalty then why should we''.)

Toto moaning as if he himself wouldn't be as petty either. They all are. Last honest one that was truly about racing was Paul Stoddart sold and left 20 years ago