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  1. Top speed

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    He didn't drive badly though? Maybe a bit too conservarive on tires, if it was a full race, he would have repassed Sainz with better tires.
     
  2. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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  3. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Fun race, i agree that without Sainz "desperate" to prove he's good, Ferrari would have had a better chance to beat Lando, but it was a fair fight, i Lando was a bit naughty in thje end and he was very lucky that Charles has such amazing reflexes, if it wa sthe other way aroun they both woul have ended in the scrapyard...If we do well in qualy, i think we have a real shot at the win.
     
  4. Vegas CS

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    I’m not a big sprint race weekend fan but this was genuinely a good little race. Hope it’s this exciting tomorrow.

    But I’m going to say this again……F1 pandering to elites makes me sick af. Why is there always an entertainer doing some kind of flag wave, prize presentation or anything????? Do a lottery draw from fan tickets and let a genuine fan of the sport have the opportunity of a lifetime. Instead some elite c*nt gets to do it who could care less about F1 or even knows what tf F1 is. Sorry for the rant but it really REALLY irritates me.
     
  5. ypsilon

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    RB seems to have got their act together again. Ferrari quicker than McLaren.

    Good weekend so far.
     
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  6. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Both HAAS drivers in the points. Interesting.
     
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  7. CRG125

    CRG125 F1 Rookie

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    I really enjoy the sprint races; it's the only opportunity for drivers to push their limits instead of just managing tire wear. I believe the format could be improved by having one qualifying session followed by the sprint race. The finishing position in the sprint race would then determine the starting grid for the main race.
     
  8. lagunacc

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    No brake check, just racing.
     
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  9. Top speed

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    It was an obvious brake check, c'mon now
     
  10. DF1

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    Norris cleared after moving under braking investigation
    Lando Norris was investigated by FIA for erratic driving in Charles Leclerc US GP sprint race battle
     
  11. Sp1der71

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    No penalty to try and keep the championship alive
     
  12. DF1

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    Max is in control. Really needs no help:


    1. Max Verstappen 339


    2. Lando Norris 285
     
  13. jcurry

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    Charles whining:rolleyes:, not


    “I did not expect him to do that,” Leclerc told Sky afterwards. “Maybe in the heat of the moment I considered that it [was] moving under braking, I’ve got to look back at the images.

    “It seems to be on the limit with the way he took the line. But at the end it’s racing as well. So, he wanted to keep that position, I tried, it was a close call, we nearly crashed. But at the end nobody crashed and he finished in front.”
     
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  14. USMCS6

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    I'm not a team order fan, but Feed needs to tell them to knock it off and race the other teams. Neither are looking at the drivers championship.
     
  15. gh0st0

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    max looking strong today
     
  16. furoni

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    No harm done, Ferrari got good points but obviously sainz is not a team player, never was, and now thaqt he's leaving he will do anything from preventing Charles to get the ebst result, we saw it in spa when he was told to hold Hamilton and instead he imidiatly entered the pitlane.....it was obvious that if instead of fighting together they focused onh catchin the guys in front, they would most probably finished 2nd and 3rd, but that's not what carlos wants, he doesn't care for the team result, and that is why he's going on a one way trip to Williams...
     
  17. Nurburgringer

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    Carlos was faster than Charles today.
    Kudos to him for taking the positions.
    Even if he had been a "team player" the best Ferrari could have done was 2-3.
    Charles could have maybe anticipated Lando slow playing that corner and taken a different line, getting by on the exit.
    After a fortuitous 1st corner Lando didn't exactly handle the pressure very well.
    Russel sure went backwards.
    Hoping for an equally entertaining race tomorrow.
     
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  18. USMCS6

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    Carlos was never a real a real "team" player. I certainaly understand that. I really like him, but with both out of the points for drivers, they squandered a possible 2-3
     
  19. Jack-the-lad

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    I’ve been saying this since they introduced the sprints, but I think ours is a minority opinion here.
     
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  20. william

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    But why should Sainz let Leclerc pass him, or help a team that decided to ditch him at the end of the season ?

    Sainz looks after himself, and there is nothing wrong in that.
     
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  21. william

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    If they could have 3 sprint races during the weekend, accumulating the points to designate the GP winner, I would be happy with that !

    Imagine that; 3 starts, no strategy, no tyre saving, and no pit stop, flat out from start to finish !!!
     
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  22. lagunacc

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    Bet you'll miss him.

    F even more.
     
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  23. DGS

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    WHO isn't a team player?

    Remember Sainz and Norris double teaming Singapore last year to keep the Merc on fresher tires behind them?

    Remember Charles not being able to cooperate with Sainz the same way later, resulting in them both getting passed?
    Remember Charles nearly balling up both cars being frantic to pass Sainz a couple of times last year?

    And in this sprint race, looking at the grid: Russell / Leclerc / Norris / Sainz ... I asked myself, "Is Chuck going to try to go after Russell and/or stay ahead of Norris, or will he be focused on keeping Carlos behind him?"
    Look how that turned out.

    Sainz wasn't playing. Leclerc wasn't closing on Russell.
    Carlos was very diplomatic on the radio, about "we need to go after these guys", but the strategy was clear:
    Either Chuck goes after Russell, or get out of Carlos' way so Sainz can go after Russell.

    And behold: Once Carlos took the lead, Chuck was able to ride Sainz' coattails to get Russell and reel in Norris.

    Chuck must have still be sulking over the Sprint race to put in that poor a qualy performance.

    Chuck might be sometimes quick in qualifying, but Carlos is the smarter racer.
    I suspect, after last year, Ferrari dropped Sainz because they felt he wasn't "lucky". (The driver who hit that pipe lid.)

    But I think they'll regret putting Ham in that seat.
    Two prima donnas at Ferrari is going to lead to a lot of bent parts, I suspect.
     
  24. Nurburgringer

    Nurburgringer F1 World Champ

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    Kind of like NASCAR Stages (as I understand them. I don't follow NASCAR).

    There still would be strategy, just a different kind.
    1st stage should be worth the most points. Highest risk (of binning it and not competing for any points in stage 2 and 3), highest reward.

    How hard do you push when there's 2 or 1 more stage to go?

    It can be argued that Carlos simply had less to lose today than Charles, so could and did drive closer to the edge.
    In any case, if there was a DoD award for sprint races Carlos would have earned it today.

    And FWIW I'd rather see Carlos and Lewis as Ferrari teammates than Charles and Lewis.
    Just seem like a more likeable pair.
     
  25. DGS

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    I'd like to see Carlos and Norris at Ferrari, but Norris has no reason to leave McLaren at this point.
     

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