FORMULA 1 QATAR AIRWAYS AUSTRIAN GRAND PRIX 2024 ....Race.... ▄▀▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▄▀▄▀▄▀

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If you watch the second half of this clip (the overhead replay) you can see Max was on the exact same line as Vettle. Braking in a straight line with an angle to the left because that's the racing line.

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In my opinion, they both got what the deserved. Lando divebombing a few times and max having to avoid him and max moving in the braking zone a few times and lando having to avoid him until it finally came to contact. They both were wrong, they both got penalized in their own ways.

It's racing.

 

When Max was in exactly the same position as Norris a few years ago he moved a little more further left and created an overtaking opportunity instead. He was still within the rule book.

Now I do agree that Norris was in his rights to not move any further but demonizing Max over such a small move is getting pretty funny because no one gave a **** when Norris pushed Max completely off track in Barcelona. Not a single issue raised.

Double standards and then some.

 

What does that have to do with Max driving into Lando in "skewed straight lines"?

 

There is no 100% just system created by man. Which is why I don't agree with all the micro managing but, let's be realistic,
it's only going to get worse from that pov.

You know very well Lando was never going to get passed Max without an accident. Max made that very clear. Very low risk for him.
He's more vulnerable than some may think.

 

But why a penalty for 1 and not the other? Both incidents where the same offense, only reason they didn't collide in barcelona was because max took avoiding action.

And again, no outrage whatsoever for Barcelona yet Austria, everyone is out for blood lol

 

Lmao!!!

On the track you have no friends. Everyone there is your enemy and your only goal should be to beat them.

 

It really shows the power of media and the power of hate.

Lando pushes Max off the track (into the grass, half a cars width) in Spain and nobody cares. Lando calls it clean racing.

Lando dive bombs Max in Austria lap 59, misses the corner completely, Max avoids a collision, a clear cut 5 second penalty for track limits on Lando should have been issued before the end of the lap. Instead they waited until after the crash happened on lap 64.

Lando dive bombs Max on lap 63 forcing Max off the track. Max avoids collision once again.

Max squeezes Lando on lap 64, Lando rightfully does not have to move, but he chose not to avoid even an inch. Slightest contact is made and we have two tire failures.

Lando claiming to be a clean racer is laughable at this point. 3 consecutive cases of dirty driving against Max, all of which Max avoided collision. If anyone needs to learn how to race it's Lando, not Max.

I stand by saying Max caused the collision since Norris is not obligated to move, but Lando made the choice not to avoid the collision even though there was more than half a cars width to his left. If it wasn't golden boy Lando and the Sky Sports villain Max, you could pretty much call it a racing incident. How many times have we seen George Russell driving into someone alongside of him without penalty? This is Liberty Media/F1 at it's finest. Creating a narrative of good guy vs bad guy.

 

100% totally agree!

 

They all do it, some more than others and if was left up to me I would give them a penalty for doing it, thats not what comm's is for!!

However at this particular race he won the rubber duck award for being the best at it. Maybe he will keep his mouth shut and do what he is best at.

 

Braking in a "straight line with an angle" because Lando committed to the outside so he changed direction, i.e., moving under braking.

Zero to do with the racing line, everything to do with blocking Lando from passing on the outside.
If Lando tried on the inside he'd exit the track to maintain position and claim he was pushed off the track.

The only reason he can get away with this is because of the micro managing rules which limit the area he has to cover.

 

From my perspective after watching F1 for 50 years he (MV) knew exactly what he was doing and drove wide on purpose. Thats not sportsmanlike whichever way you slice the cake, all greats have done it and been shown up for stupid moves.

Anyway more to the point, if it wasnt for that one incident there would be zero to talk about, says a lot for the current F! circus.

 

A driver (but I can't remember who) said once that every passing needs the cooperation from the one who's overtaken.

If he resists, you enter the danger zone. When cars were more fragile, and contacts hazardous, people were more cautious.

 

Yes, the name escapes me as well... Could be Lauda

DRS makes it worse imho, a fake way to gain an advantage over the guy in front makes no sense, the margins are to small nowadays. 100th sec separate them.

If you can catch the leader then you should have the ability to get past him.

It's not a contact sport but I hate to see false interventions to spice up the show or drivers moaning on the radio "his rear tyre crossed the white line........I bet they were prefects at school.

In any event I am a team supporter, drivers come and go and couldnt give a rats butt to any of them..

 

I disagree with that. You can catch a car because you are faster, but overtaking is an other matter.
If the guy resists, no matter how talented you are, it can become a) difficult, b) hazardous, or c) dangerous.
Not every driver yield when being caught; in fact some seem to spend more energy blocking faster competitors than trying to catch those ahead of them, I have noticed. Some drivers even pride themselves of "making their car very wide" by all sort of dubious tactics.
But then, we enter the realm of sportmanship, which has totally deserted F1, with all the pressure.
Ask Alonso how he lost a championship once, being unable to overtake a slower Petrov after a pit stop !
This is why I thought DRS was introduced, to stop the unnecessary blocking some seem to enjoy, and allow passing on the straights, where it is less hazardous than on corners. It was more civilised, but I know some don't like it.

 

the new variable wings and no passing zones should improve the next cars

 

I'm surprised Max was not DQ-ed.

He knew exactly what he was doing. Lando should toughen up, and ensure he stands his ground in Britain

 

Speaking of wings....how is THIS allowed? Even pre race it was said lol

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He's actually an Aussie but he's a crook so we don't like to claim him

 

It's Ferrari and ........ been following F1 since 61, races weren't televised until 76 in Oz

This is our second miserable trot for a WDC

 

A very 'Noble' stance lol