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Race Defining Flashpoint Broken Down: Max Vs Lando | Jolyon Palmer’s F1 TV Analysis | Workday

 

yeah after watching that I'll change my previous "hard but fair elbows-out defending" opinion to "Max is a ****head" lol

 

So after all that drama, even Norris himself admits he overreacted and that it was the smallest of touches just with big consequences, and that Max shouldn't have to apologize!

(1) Formula 1 on X: ""Have you and Max spoken since last Sunday?" Over to you, Lando #F1 #BritishGP https://t.co/aIPldVrbZb" / X

Also, I have new found respect for Lewis after straight up disagreeing with Andrea Stella.


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More Driver reactions:

Russell: Drivers don't have to race Max differently

Mercedes' George Russell, the eventual race winner in Austria, on whether drivers have to race differently when wheel-to-wheel with Max Verstappen:

"I don’t think so, to be honest.

"You know Max is one of the best, is a hard racer and will push the rules to the limit as all of the top drivers do.

"We all know what the rules are, what the rules are around moving under braking. He probably pushed that slightly behind the limit. As for the incident, as Lando said, it was a very small thing with big consequences and part of racing.

"So short answer is 'no'."


Albon:

the reality of it was just pure racing, hard racing” between the two drivers.

“It’s aggressive racing but I think it’s blown out of proportion, in my opinion,” said the Williams driver.”

“I think it was questionable more the first move where Max moved under the braking the first time. I don’t really think he moved under braking on the one where they made contact. I think that was more just kind of heading more towards a straight line, just going more towards the left.”

Nico Hulkenberg:

“To be honest, for me Max wasn’t doing much. He was more or less driving in a straight line. We have to leave a car width which I think there was and there was still kerb on the left and not a wall and room, so no.

“I think the stewards got involved quite a lot last weekend, but it’s personal opinion, personal views, and like I say for me that was that was just racing.”

He felt the pair were unfortunate to sustain punctures when they made contact. “It was racing, for me,” said Hulkenberg. “There was next to no contact.

“There was the slightest of contact, I don’t think you could have less contact, it’s just obviously quite bad how they hit in that both rims kind of broke from that. But usually you get away with that kind of contact.

“So I felt it was all ‘biffed up’ quite a bit and dramatic. And for me, it was just racing."

Danny Ric:

“I think the moving under braking, I have an understanding of what I should do and shouldn’t do,” he said. “If you look at it, yeah it’s hard, but you’re also fighting for a win so you’re not going to just wave someone by. I think the contact, that can happen probably nine times out of ten with no consequence.

“They’d been going at it back and forth. Maybe the angle was a bit awkward. Obviously Lando ended the race but I think the outcome was bigger than probably what was actually happening on track.

“What I saw, at least, nothing seemed over the top. Was it pushing the edge? Probably. But was anything dangerous or reckless, at least from what I’ve seen. No.”

He believes other drivers would have fought Norris as hard for the lead as Verstappen did. “I don’t even want to spotlight Max. I think when you’re fighting for a win, are you going to fight harder than fighting for 15th place? Honestly, yes, because it’s just how it is.

“So I think it’s to be expected. I’m not saying whether everything was correct and by the book, maybe some things were pushing it.”

KMag:

"It’s frustrating that it’s always going back and forth with the rules,” he said. “I think maybe they just have to make it more free.

“At the end of the day Max paid, he got a penalty, which I guess was correct by the rules. But at the end of the day he got a natural penalty with his puncture. So it didn’t pay off for him to drive the way he did in that moment.

“I just think there is a natural sort of dynamic to racing. If you let the drivers race free they will race hard. But at the end of the day, you want to be finishing races, you want to be taking care of your car. And that kind of stuff stops the drivers from doing too crazy things. I think it’s better to be trusting each other based on everyone wanting to finish the race for themselves rather than relying on people to stick to the rules or whatever.

“I kind of had a little bit of that in Monaco where I have my car in the space that, by the rules, you shouldn’t lose that space. But I lost that space, and that didn’t pay off for me.”

While Magnussen insisted “I’m not saying we should have no rules at all” he believes a looser approach to regulating racing, as he’s experienced in America, would benefit F1.

“I’ve raced in IndyCar myself and also in sports cars, and I think in the US they have this approach that they just let the drivers race and it works. It’s not like it’s going crazy over there because you go over there and you just you come back to how I was racing in karting back in the day where there wasn’t really all these specific rules about everything and it just kind of worked out naturally and the racing was great.”

Nonetheless Magnussen conceded that stewards should pay close attention to drivers moving under braking.

“Reacting to someone, I think you have to make your move before the other guy does, otherwise if someone’s slipstreaming you and you move just after he’s moved, that’s dangerous. You can’t do that. And under braking once you hit the brakes to change direction too much is also dangerous.”

 

Excellent Bas.

 

FIA admitted maxipad should have gotten a blk/white flag.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia-admits-verstappen-should-have-had-black-and-white-warning-flag-in-austria/10632618/