FORMULA 1 ROLEX MAGYAR NAGYDÍJ 2018: QUALIFYING *** SPOILERS ***

...Unless their #1 driver is out of the race for some reason.

 

The irony of today's broadcast

The announcers tell us that rain will help Lance Stroll because he's done so well in some previous rain situation.

30 seconds later Stroll crashes out -- with the first drops of rain.

 

In my opinion, yes.

The stats also confirm it, I believe.

Prost was a thinking driver; Senna an instinctive driver.

Again, IN MY OPINION .

 

LOL

I just found out that I have the same birthday as Lance...

Can I stay on this forum now?

 

I agree with you on this one, William.

 

This is the great debate-- tastes great or less filling.

Both had their advantages and disadvantages. But to me, even if Senna did not die tragically, Senna would be appreciated more today than Prost. In the end, isn't that what really matters? People just tend to respect raw talent over the strategist.

Both existed in a time when drivers mattered more to win consistently than today and both lived in a time when politics and team infighting were used as weapons against your teammate.

 

Actually, when Hamilton signed for Mercedes, they weren't a winning team at all.
They hadn't won a GP for the last 3 years, and only won one late in the season, I believe.
Mercedes started to win regularly after Hamilton joined; 3 in the first year to start with.
The rest is history.

 

I remember on Fchat EVERYONE HERE said Hamilton moving to Merc was the dumbest thing ever and that he may never win another race again, let alone a championship

 

Well, I never said that.

 

They won in 2012 before Hamiton came in and podium a few times, The year Hamilton came in they won 3 which Rosberg won 2 of them and Hamilton the other. They really became dominate when the Hybrids came in.

 

I don't remember that, but when Alonso joined McLaren, I prophecised that he would never win a GP again.

So far, 'Nando has proved me right, and I don't think his prospect will improve on that account!

Whisper: Alonso has been my pet hate for a while.

 

So, where was the momentum you were talking about?

 

Almost everyone????

I thought it was a dumb move from McLaren where Ron Dennis was his protector.

 

So Lewis made the difference? Is that what you want to imply? So why was it Rosberg who won their first GP and not Lewis???
Or was Nico all of the sudden enlightened because Lewis joined?

 

I see this way, they won in 2012 and 3 the year after with Hamilton winning just 1 and after that they became dominate when the motors switched. I dont think that had anything to do with Hamilton or Rosberg. You compare to Vettel, when he came into Toro Rosso and Redbull they had not won at all.

 

Obviously, “everyone” is overstated for impact, but that was certainly the prevailing sentiment on the site. I believe the thread is still here, buried a few pages back in the section.

 

Sigh, again the old story about Lewis winning a race every season...
This only prooves that he was sitting in a car capable of winning every single year of his career. Apart from Kovalainen one year every single of his team mates won a race with the same car that prooves that it was not Lewis making the difference whether the car was a winner or not.
And you judge Seb by a single season? What would you say if one does only judge Lewis by the years he lost against Jenson and Nico? Some might say that Ricciardo might be better than both of them...furthermore the car in 2014 was not a winner, Ricciardo never won on own merit, he only won when the Mercedes screwed up, so one might say that the three victories of Ricciardo were lucky. Agreed that Seb did not adapt that fast to the new regulations but does that make him a worse driver alone? Moss never adopted to slicks as far as I remember, would you say that this makes him a bad driver?

Again: I do not say that Sebv is better than Lewis the way you do it the other way round. I simply say that there is absolutely no proof of that, no matter what statistics you want to bring up. Because all of these statistics have one thing in common: the are based on a car/driver combination and not on a driver alone!!!

 

A touch different than last year!!

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/137703/verstappen-red-bull-just-doesnt-work-in-wet

Max Verstappen says Red Bull's 2018 Formula 1 car "just doesn't work" in wet conditions, having qualified a disappointing seventh for the Hungarian Grand Prix.

The young Dutchman has built up a reputation for wet-weather prowess in his F1 career so far, while Red Bull has also generally excelled in such conditions of late - as such weather puts an emphasis on downforce and negates its customary straightline speed deficit.

But at the Hungaroring - which is viewed as one of Red Bull's stronger tracks - Verstappen could do no better than seventh in wet-weather qualifying, 2.2 seconds off pole and beaten not only by the Mercedes and Ferrari cars but also a Renault and a Toro Rosso.

"The car doesn't work. I don't know what the reason is. It just doesn't work," Verstappen told Dutch broadcaster Ziggo Sport after the session.

"No grip and then there's nothing you can do in the rain.

"It hasn't been working out for us in the rain all year.

"Also at the restarts, when you have cold tyres, we never manage to find the connection, like in Baku, also in Hockenheim.

"Last year you just knew that when you went out [in the wet], it was three purple sectors and the car went like a bullet. This year it's a whole different story."

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Unlike him we didn’t know they were cheating time on developing their next PU

 

+1000 IMO!

 

As I've said before, if you're not being accused of cheating, you're not trying hard enough (IMO).

 

Only if your dad is a check writer(make mine out to "cash")

 

I am not comparing to anything, I only reacted to your statement that Hamilton joined Mercedes when " they were a winning team and had momentum".
They were not exactly setting the world alight before he came, so his move was judged audacious by many at the time.
But Hamilton made the right move, as it turned out, and Alonso keeps making the wrong ones!!!

 

YES. I do not get why you LOLeld a correct and obvious Statement of fact.

 

Am I the only one on f-chat that cherishes the constructors title over the drivers championship?

Joe