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  1. Top speed

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    Leclerc's pace looks immense here, kinda sad if it's going to rain rest of the weekend, cause Ferrari have serious pace on dry. Did Lec even use the new engine yet, don't they use old engines in practise.
     
  2. DF1

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    Ferrari and Mercedes appear sorted. RedBull with work to do on understeer and more for Max than Perez in a marginal sense. Prac 3 will be interesting to see the response and changes.
     
  3. DF1

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    Tyres, Tyres tires lol :) Might mix things a bit!

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/pirelli-fears-turkish-gp-tyre-choice-too-aggressive/6683374/
    Pirelli fears Turkish GP tyre choice too "aggressive"

    By: Adam Cooper
    Oct 8, 2021, 12:58 PM
    Pirelli Formula 1 boss Mario Isola admits that the company has gone too "aggressive" on its compound choices for the Turkish GP.

    After drivers struggled to find grip on the newly-resurfaced track last season, Pirelli went one step softer for this year's race, switching from the C1, C2, C3 combination to the C2, C3 and C4.

    However, having made that choice, Pirelli learned that the characteristics of the track had been changed after the race promoter decided to water-blast it, a process that has helped to generate more grip.

    During Friday practice ahead of the Turkish GP drivers suffered graining on the softs, and Isola believes that teams will now try to avoid using them in the race if they can.

    Teams will probably only have data gathered from FP1 and FP2 to plan their strategies for qualifying, as Saturday's FP3 session is likely to be wet, but their data gathering was made more complicated by Friday's changing wind levels.

    There is also still a chance that qualifying itself could be wet, but if slicks are used in Q2, teams will have to make a call on whether to commit to starting on the medium or soft.

    "I believe that the soft is quite an aggressive choice," said Isola. "Consider that when we selected the tyres, the three compounds for this race, we were not aware of this superficial treatment that they were planning. So looking at the data from last year, we decided to go one step softer.

    "The soft is quite an aggressive choice. And I believe that some teams were using the soft today just to get rid of them, and focus on the medium and hard for the race, if they want to plan a one-stop strategy."

    Although it is common for the fastest drivers to try to go through Q2 on the medium rather than the soft, Isola believes that more will attempt to do so this weekend, encouraged by a relatively small delta of 0.3-0.4s between the two.

    "I believe that we will see more than two or three cars trying to qualify on the soft, because the delta lap time between the soft and the medium is very small.

    "So it's not like one second, where you take a big risk to go through Q2 with a medium instead of the soft, with this small difference, probably more cars are trying to qualify on the medium compound."

    Isola confirmed that the treatment undertaken by the promoter had made a significant difference to grip levels, as reported by drivers today.

    "The level of grip increased quite a lot. This is probably due to the fact that we don't have the bitumen on top, and let's say the stones are visible, and therefore generating more grip compared to last year.

    "The increase in grip is clear, because the lap times are four to five seconds quicker than last year. So I believe that there is no doubt on the increase the level of grip.

    "We were expecting some graining, and the graining is visible on all the three compounds, especially on the softer one, and especially on the front right. The graining on the inside shoulder is accelerating the wear.
     
  4. johnireland

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    Didn't find either session very interesting. No big wow moments. Though I like the track.
     
  5. ricksb

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    A little surprised at Merc’s pace today. Three weeks ago, Marko said that Turkey would be a Red Bull circuit. Two weeks ago, Horner said it was a coin flip. Today, it looks like Merc (and Ferrari!)

    should be interesting
     
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  6. johnireland

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    Is Hamilton taking the new engine, or he is doing well enough to use this engine through the weekend. And is Max sandbagging? Hard to believe Perez is going quicker than Max.
     
  7. Top speed

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    They are only replacing ICE at the moment, so 10 place grid penalty for Ham, will start p11 at the highest.

    Almost smells like a Lec pole if Red Bull can't get their set up together. Latest weather forecasts say that FP3 is probably wet with light rain; but Quali could be completely dry, the race on Sunday also looks 99% sure to be fully dry conditions.
     
  8. Remy Zero

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    whats the catch, no such thing as a free lunch?
     
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    Doesn't look that bad ...a bit of rain ffs
     
  12. jgonzalesm6

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    Hoping leclerc does the business here, rain probably helps the cause as back to a green track
     
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    George Russell takes a trip to the beach . . .
     
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    Seb manages to fit in a quick spin ..SOP
     
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    In these conditions, you can see the aero at work. Vortices off the end of the rear wing endplate. Y250 vortex off the front wings going into the bargeboards.

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    More vortex porn.......rear wing endplate vortices.

     
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    Very cool.
     
  21. Mitch Alsup

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    The trick is to watch how the vortex comes off the wing and how it then takes a turn to the right.
     
  22. jgonzalesm6

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    You can see RedBulls Y250 vortex is more "powerful" than that of the Aston Martins.
     
  23. Remy Zero

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    Nothing. Only sometimes techno cat comes up at the top corner.
     

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