Formula 1 splitting up in 2008?

Such championship is called GPWC and has been out there for a couple of years as a threat from the teams not to sign the Concorde agreement renewal. This championship has been used as a bargaining chip by the manufacturers involved in F1 to get a larger share of TV revenue from Bernie Ecclestone.

 

Rumors of a manufacturer series have existed for a long time. They want to write the rules and share the profits instead of giving them to Bernie and Max.

 

Yes, it's the embodiment of how ridiculous F1 has become. Even though most of the higher-ups in F1 are egotistical, I get the impression that the GPWC is pretty much still a bluff. I just can't picture that many educated, highly-paid managers being stupid enough to pull that. Even in their LaLa land, living in Monaco, etc. they must get Cart and IRL race broadcasts. And history never repeats itself...

 

First of all, there would be no "break away series". There would be a new series. If 6/7 teams broke away then how would the remaining series continue to function. There simply would not be enough cars on the grid.

 

Perhaps two competing series are created.

One features teams with average budgets of 250M+ budgets and include Williams/McLaren/Honda/Toyota/Renault/Red Bull/Sauber (BMW?).

Another features teams with average budgets of 100M+ and includes Ferrari/Jordan/Minardi and 4 unnamed teams.

Please. The Ferrari series would be F1? F1 is the series with technical supremacy, the best drivers, most the expensive cars, etc.....The first series would have that. Ferrari might be in the series *called* F1....it certainly won't be the F1 we have currently though. However, the other series will be very similar to the F1 we have currently.

This is, of course, if there ever was a split (and if that happened I think only the GPWC would exist with Ferrari or not).

 

Indianapolis will once again be a significance in motorsports history. Remember the split with the US 500 because Indy was just too fast? This will happen again and tires will be a reason for it.

The 2008 proposals deal with 90% cost cutting. They want one tire spec, one tire manufacturer and back to slicks. Something similar to how the NASCAR guys do it: a team goes to all the races and hands out wheels w/mounted tires to each team. You don't get to pick.

Basically, they took the "A1" spec'ed car proposals and said, "let's change A1 to F1... yea".

F1...is losing ground and public interest. Indy didn't help one bit.

 

Agree with you, but i believe that is only relevant to the US.
Considering that ...
A) All posters in this thread are American
B) You guys just got raped of a good race/show

On the upside, Melbourne had more people attending the race than it ever has. So did the Canadian GP. And Monaco. And im sure others too...
F1 wont die.
I always looked at F1 being the epitome of motorsport. Where money was no object and speed was insane, and the drivers were the best. Basically, nothing could beat em. I agree that Bernie should be sharing the pie a little more, but i dont think that F1 will die

 

Couldn't agree more Mike. It seems US GP fans think the sport revolves around them. I hope there isn't another USGP until a REAL F1 circuit can be found in the US. Until then, there's Montreal for the North Americans.

 

Mike, good point, but where are you on this map?
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Well i dont blame the Americans for their reactions. I would be like that if i was in their position. They got raped of a good show. Their $$ got wasted. Id be pissed off.
I dont think that there is anything wrong with the track either. But i wouldnt mind a F1 round at Laguna Seca! Or Watkins Glen.....

Montreal was a good nice IMO. (And i dont think its because JPM got slammed, even though that made me so unbelievably happy)

 

Funny stuff!!

Im on the map. "Here be something else..."

 

My rub against Indy is the amount of drivers whose lives or careers have ended there. Any research into this would be depressing no matter what the outcome but a track designed nearly a hundred years ago, that is clearly limiting the safety of the participants, really should be retired (no pun intended)

 

I dont know much about the safety history of Indy.
But maybe a new track would fix the problem. Thoughts?

 

Indy is an oval and it would be hard to convince the IndyCar fans (ChampCars or IRL) that it should be something else. But with the size of that facility I'm pretty sure a better circuit could be designed if they demolished the old one. I know I'm in the minority when it comes to bashing Indy.

 

Maybe this whole thing was planned from the start. Maybe the 6 or 7 teams don't want to wait till 2008 for more money and the changes they want. Maybe they won't go the the meeting with Max and Bernie. What would happen?
F1 is in trouble and Indy was the place to let it rip. They didn't piss off the good fans.