Hope kimi keeps 3rd in the standings
Sad to see Kimi go - the doughnuts were brilliant though Seb might have had a bit of extra practice lol - Verstappen showed that Hamilton is not untouchable - 2 successive races now in an inferior car he's overtaken him and just needs a little polish given his age. Bring on 2019 with Seb and Leclerc Best, Sammy
Yep! Already looking forward to next year! Leclerc looked fast today. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he does in the Ferrari. I'm a big Vettel fan, but wouldn't be surprised if he was gone 1 way or another if next year goes similarly. New to the sport and slowly learning the history, even the recent history, but would there be any chance of Alonso returning in 2020??? Kevin
After missing out on Ricciardo, Ferrari should have been moving heaven and earth to get Alonso signed up. Vettel is not going to stay and be emasculated by the weak management and abysmal strategists at ferrari for much longer. He will retire or move on. Alonso would bring a different dynamic to the car, he is able to wring every last drop from it and then some, he doesn’t need it perfect and he won’t be distracted by mind games, he is the king of those. Personally, I’d have Alonso on as test driver, see how the drivers do next year, and have him ready to pounce and make up a dream team, taking the place of either if necessary to win a championship.
I would pick him too, someone need to clean the toilets back in the garage...that beard should come in handy!
He will be back mate, you watch, maybe there was some clause preventing him racing for anyone else in 2019, but he will be back, he’s too good to not race. Forza Ferrari..... the only racing team and car marque that matters. Italia forever It’s easier to apologise than it is to ask permission
Actually, there is a great fondness within the team for Alonso, he did not fall out of love with the team, nor they him, he simply had the pressing need to try to win a championship and ferrari were not in a position to do it for him. Once ferrari realised he was losing the faith, they went after Vettel, and it was common knowledge that Vettel had signed a Pre contract agreement with the Scuderia, no one knew when it would take effect though. That forced Alonso’s hand, and that of The team, and the seed was sown for replacement. Alonso would not have accepted Vettel on the team, nor Vettel come knowing Alonso was there as an equal (neither would be seen as a second driver at that time). Alonso then spent time being courted by various teams all of whom had their own issues within their team as to how to fit him in, and then the draw of McLaren with their stories of a new Honda super project was a move that could easily have gone the opposite way, and he found himself in the doldrums unable to do anything but destroy his teammates consistently in a car that had no chance of midefield at times, let alone podiums
He's an ok driver upper mid pack driver at best. He hasn't won anything this stint at McLaren so he's not a good department driver and couldn't bring a WDC during his stint at Ferrari sprint his lack of racecraft. I don't think Ferrari wants anything to do with him.
Are you talking about the same driver we are? Alonso is acknowledged as the best driver out there, he wasn’t to blame for his car, McLaren and Honda were. Put him in a top car and he makes it dance. It’s said he can add several tenths of speed to the car, and we saw that every weekend at ferrari, it’s just a shame the car was never capable of consistent performance Forza Ferrari..... the only racing team and car marque that matters. Italia forever It’s easier to apologise than it is to ask permission
Again, He couldn't win the WDC in the Ferrari and he couldn't win a race in the McLaren. He hasn't won a WDC in over a decade and hasn't won a race in over half a decade... these are facts and are not up for dispute. Not the making of a great driver.
I think you are only saying this in order to have a row with someone, and it won’t be me. Ferrari themselves this weekend had noted Alonso’s worth to them, and no one in the paddock would ever say anything to confirm your comments. You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is
Where did I post opinion? Everything I posted is fact. Also words are meaningless if Ferrari wanted Alonso they would have hired him instead of LeClerc. Clearly he has more experience, they know him and know what he brings to a team and they choose a young inexperienced kid over him! Actions are worth a 1000 words and this doesn't speak about how Ferrari view and feel about Alonso. Yeah, you're great but we'll take the rookie over you. I hope that Leclerc does and amazing job next season and drives the wheels off the Ferrari and puts a real challenge to Vettel.
Alonso was the best on the grid, acknowledged by just about everyone. He didn’t get the job at Ferrari because they have their number one driver - Vettel. Leclerc is the future, to learn at the knee of Sebastian. If Vettel were to leave in 2020 or 2021, mark my words, Alonso will be in the frame but would only come if there is a good car and a chance to fight at the front. If you were a formula one fan, as opposed to an Elton fan, you would know that Alonso is the most complete driver on the grid, if the ferrari had been a true competitor in 2010 thru 2012, he would have at least four titles, but the car was terrible, and the fact he dragged it to where it ended up is testament to his skill, NO ONE else on the grid could have achieved what he did with ‘Clifford the Horse’. At Ferrari, he is still fondly remembered for his ability and what he brought to the team, and I’m afraid if you went to any team in the paddock and told them the opinion you have, you’d simply be laughed at
You may like to note that Alonso was in the hunt for the world championship in the Ferrari. Alonso regularly won in the Ferrari, even while no one but the Red Bull was doing so, and took the championship to the last race in two seasons where he had a car that should not have been capable of the position it found itself. During that time, Elton and button were driving around matching each other, and no one was applauding Elton and claiming he was any better than Jenson, as he clearly had no more talent than him, and he certainly didn’t drag the car any further than jenson could, so clearly, whatever issues that car had, neither of them had the skill to drag extra performance out of the car, or if they did, then they both had the same talent levels, as it didn’t show in any skew in finishes in the car, whereas Alonso destroyed his teammates at Ferrari, neither of whom were mugs. When Alonso went to McLaren, it was because Ferrari and he had no common ground anymore, he didn’t want to sit in a car incapable of a championship waiting for it to become competitive, he’d had five years of that, and Ferrari wanted Vettel, who they saw as michaels successor. He went to McLaren on massive superstar wages, which I think you fans of Elton have used in the past to demonstrate that Elton is a superstar, and promises that they would be emulating the success of the late 80’s in their partnership with Honda, especially as Honda were so great with turbo engines (sic). It is not Alonso’s fault that McLaren and Honda failed to deliver. Alonso made the most of what he was given, out qualifying his teammate 26 times in a row which ended in Abu Dhabi (and then, when he has failed, it has generally been reliability) even though he is not known as a one lap specialist. In the same period, Elton was out qualified by Rosberg in almost half the races they competed in, so hardly demonstrating any additional ability especially given his status as clear number one and all the advantages it gives, by rights he should have been demonstrably better, but was not, and while the Mercedes was still in prototype in 2013, I seem to remember reading recently that Rosberg stats were better than Elton’s. Bottas has outqualified him quite a few times in his two seasons too, and yet even his most vehement fans admit Bottas is far less of a driver than Rosberg, and brought in as a totally subservient driver to his team leader. I recommend looking up a few of those races in the Ferrari from 2010 and 2012, there were a few good ones there from Alonso, and of course, the cars sound a bit better, look a bit better, and the racing was a bit more evident
I think he did a good job for Ferrari and Ferrari let him down. He's made some poor career decisions but that doesn't make him not a great driver. That he hasn't won more and more recently, is down to him not being in a car that was capable, rather than to his driving skills, and he has consistently outperformed his team mates and delivered results that most felt the car was not capable of. The BBC have a series of 5 articles on his F1 career and the comments by Andrea Stella in the last one were, I thought, very interesting since he worked closely with both ALO and MSC.
What a laundry list of excuses... Alonso was overpaid and he under delivered. That is why no team including wanted to sign him and he's been forced into retirement. Vettel is no longer the golden boy at Ferrari as they have already brought in his replacement in Leclerc. They understand that Vettel will be gone in 2020 and might not survive the 2019 season, If they believed in and wanted Alonso back in the Ferrari they would have hired him but again they did not! And everyone knows that Lewis Hamilton is the best on the grid and has out raced everyone for many years. Forza Ferrari!
Here we go with you bringing Hamilton into this thread, and sticking a Forza Ferrari in the end. Well done.
Wonder what improvements the team will be deeming as most important, and which are secondary this closed season? The engine seems strong, so, I’d suggest race management and strategy, starts, and driver management as in guidance to prevent the red mist. The car itself needs work too, firstly, copy the rims of the Mercedes, covertly implement an answer to strat 2. Any others? Forza Ferrari..... the only racing team and car marque that matters. Italia forever It’s easier to apologise than it is to ask permission