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Discussion in '308/328' started by Tim Wells, Apr 23, 2010.

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  1. Tim Wells

    Tim Wells Formula Junior

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    #76 Tim Wells, Jun 25, 2010
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    Just in case I left it out of the original postings, here's the tag to back this other fellows post up.

    By the way Bradley, that guy told me he was from Columbia while I was shooting all these photos and making small talk.
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  2. Tim Wells

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    I need a doctor now because I laughed my arse off after I read this... I could just hear him saying all that with that accent of his. Thanks for the chuckle.
     
  3. Bradley

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    From his grammar (in Spanish, of course), I guessed Spain; very formal (although sarcastic.)

    It doesn't matter where Juan is from; it only matters if Juan is honest. ;)
     
  4. Testacojones

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    Spanish grammar is the same across the planet and doesn't change from country to country.
    In the Americas is just as in Spain.
     
  5. Tony K

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    Regarding English as a second language, sellers, and integrity:

    To learn a second language, even if only broken, is an accomplishment that a relatively small percentage of Americans have done to any degree. People should be commended for their efforts, not ridiculed.

    As a side note, my parents are both immigrants to this country, I have more ethnically diverse friends than almost anyone I know, and as Juan indicated he is from Colombia, I may as well add that one of my very best friends is from there.

    With that said, poor grammar and spelling of any language in any advertisement or auction is unacceptable, and in my opinion, fair game for humor or ridicule. In this age of spell check, there is no excuse for an ad like Juan's, other than laziness or incompetence. He's in the middle of Georgia for goodness sake -- couldn't he ask someone for help writing the ad? I've written classified ads in other languages and got help. I've never, for any language or culture, seen a case of someone not willing to help someone who wants to write or speak better in a language not their own. To me, a poorly written advertisement is just a mark of laziness, incompetence, and/or bad character, and speaks to how that person must conduct his business, treats his cars, his customers, etc.

    So far with Juan, from what people are saying on this board, it appears that the quality of his ad matches the quality of his character.
     
  6. Mfoncerrada

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    Well he's certainly not a good representative for Columbia, such an old and distinguished University....LOL
     
  7. Bradley

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    I humbly stand corrected. I should have said "diction," or perhaps "word choice." As I mentioned, Juan's replies to me were more formal than I am accustomed to seeing from the people I usually work with who are from Mexico. This is why I guessed Spain, but it hardly matters; my guess was wrong.

    That aside, styles of speaking do vary from place to place somewhat. For example, the informal plural "you" ("vosotros") is so rarely used in Mexico and most of Central America that several native Spanish-speakers from those areas have told me that there is no such word.

    Back to Juan: I'll still forgive spelling and grammatical mistakes in any language more readily than I'll forgive fraudulent misrepresentation.
     
  8. Bradley

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    Evidently this travesty has sold for $18,600.

    I'd be interested to know if the buyer is happy, and what happens next. I'd love to think that he's a highly experienced mechanic with incredible paint-and-body expertise and the time and know-how to turn this into a Concours winner. But I don't think that's likely.

    Barring that, I'd love to see him sue Juanito's pants off for blatantly fraudulent misrepresentation. (Anyone want to place bets on how long before it's back in Juan's possession and for sale on eBay again?)

    I also see that Juanito has a Humvee listed. This one's AWOSME.
     
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  10. Bradley

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  11. swift53

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    Just gave him a call (in English) and he said the car had not been sold due to the winning bid not being authorized, as posted by the winner's terrible son. He is shocked! Tie those kids up!
    Same song and dance, needs "verry leeetle wurk"
    He sounds very haughty and full of himself...enjoy the opportunity!
    Regards, Alberto
    PS He still wants the 18.6K for it, maybe he'll deliver?
     
  12. MS250

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    agree 10 -15k tops, this is what i call "dead" - restore time
     
  13. phrogs

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    #88 phrogs, Jul 31, 2010
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    The problem isn't the stuff that is reported it is the stuff that goes unreported, you may find some info about a car but I have seen multiple carfax reports that gave a car a compete clean bill of health nothing but registration info and I was buying a totled car a wreck to part out that could not and would not be repaired, and the car fax gurenteed me 5K that the car was good to go.

    Nothing was reported to police or insurance so nothing was on the car fax!

    It can be used as a tool but its not always accurate, I do not trust them.
     
  14. chris_columbia

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    phrogs is right. If you don't have comprehensive insurance on a car (that means you are only insuring other people you hit, not you're own car), there is not reason to report some accidents to insurance company or police. This is especially true for one car accidents. In which case the accident will not show up on carfax.

    In fact, with the creation of carfax, you really have to think about if it is worth calling the insurance company after an accident. If I hit a tree in my 308, and cause $5K in damage, should I call insurance company? They might fix the car, but now carfax shows my car is damged goods, and if I sell it, people will pay $10K less for it. If I pay to fix it myself, I'm out $5K, but the car value is not decrease(assuming I'm not honest with buyer). Just an example.

    Personally, I think carfax is way over rated. I know people who won't buy a car if carfax has an accident report. Many older(non-collector) cars are in better shape after an accident, because they get newer parts, paint, etc.
     
  15. Bradley

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    Conversely, a car like this - which I don't think is worth taking home, unless you're a paint-and-body man with lots of spare time - shows up pretty clean on Carfax.
     

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