Fox News whines that 2007 NASCAR was boring!

Fox News to the rescue?

 

Sounds like a nice venue for Ron Dennis to explore

 

Boring?

They had JPM's rookie year, a great 2-car race down to the wire for the title, the Earnhardt Jr./DEI split, Toyota's performance, cheating scandals at Daytona, etc.

What do they need, someone indicted for steroid scandal and perjury to make things interesting? They should stick to politics as their motorsports reporting sucks.

 

I think the NASCRAP popularity bubble has burst. Remember a few months ago when their officials seriously thought they could challenge the NFL????? And the last elections when a big voter group was going to be "NASCAR Dads"? They rode the wave, made a ton of money, but now it's over. A bright light that has faded like so many other fads.

 

Boring yes. And really boring becasue Hendrick racing dominated everybody else. And reportedly nobody really likes Jimmy Johnson but nobody really knows why. He's a nice guy and all that. An agressive drive but maybe just boring according to the commentator on ESPN this morning. Dale Earnhardt Jr. is the most popular. Jeff gordon is popular too. Go figure. It's NASCAR.

 

Any more so than F1 cars resemble anything found on roads today?!?

What does that have to do with anything?

 

And the DTM is a TOURING CAR championship. Any resemblance of those cars to their production cousins is strictly incidental. And Pro STOCK drag race cars are hardly stock.

Stock Car racing is a euphemism, not an exact definition. It is a silhoutte series just as touring cars in the rest of the world are silhoutte series. This has got to be the single most ridiculous criticism of NASCAR.

 

. . .as long the drivers only turn one direction!

Neurotic
Affinity for
Seeing
Crashes
Among
Rednecks.

 

I thought it was Not A Sport, Centered Around Rednecks. I guess I was mistaken

 

Aside from pointing out the elitism inherent in your comment, I suggest you consider reading "The 200 MPH Billboard".

I just finished reading it recently, the demographics surrounding NASCAR racing will explode a lot of your preconceptions. While I am not a fan of oval track stock car racing, I can appreciate the sport for what it is and the talent of its participants. Furthermore I can also appreciate not acting like an effete Euro-trash snob towards stock car racing simply because I prefer Formula One.

 

Pro Stocks were at one time STOCK base, just like NASCAR was! F1 was never stock anything! Racing was at it's best in earlier years, Indy 500, Stock Car Racing, Can Am, F5000, F1, Sports Prototypes(Lemans), TransAm, Formula Ford for that matter. Those days are done all we have now is spec.this and spec. that.

 

LOL

 

I bet them good o'l boys are laughin a lot louder then we are.

 

Elitism or not, NASCAR was boring this year. I tried to watch it, but I would fall asleep not too far into the race...even using Live Timing.

OTOH I get up in the middle of the night to watch F1. (I watch Live Timing and am frustrated by the Speed TV announcers who seem to miss most of the important things about the race.)

I would guess that most NASCAR fans drive "American made" cars and F1 fans drive foreign cars. I would also guess that NASCAR fans don't drive a sports car and that F1 fans are more likely to drive a sports car or have owned one in their life. And the sports car that they have owned was most likely foreign made. NASCAR fans are also more likely to drive a pickup.

I can see how people who don't own foreign sports cars can think that people who do own foreign sports cars are elitists. I can also see how people who drive foreign sports cars don't think of themselves as elitists. After all, that's what anybody who knows about cars would prefer. Well, that's what people who own foreign sports cars naturally think.

Just like people who own pickups think their choice is much wiser and more practical. The pickup guys I know all like to have a new truck with lots of power and all the latest gadgets. Does that make THEM elitists?

Owning a Ferrari is elitist by the mere fact that they are so rare. But I don't believe that just because you own a foreign sports car and/or think NASCAR is boring, makes you an elitist.

And people I know who have modest means and regard "redneck" behavior as appalling with distain are definitely not elitist and they are not snobs.

So calling people elitist is just as bad as calling people rednecks.

 

An elitist is someone who would stereotype fans of a particular form of racing as "rednecks". It is no surprise that the movie "Talledega Nights" portrayed an F1 driver as a homosexual Frenchman.

 

ROTFL I would really resent being called a Frenchman.

 

No, but showing disdain for those who DON'T own a foreign sports car or disdain for those who DON'T think NASCAR is boring is indeed elitist. Just because someone chooses to enjoy different hobbies and toys doesn't make them worse people, and yet there are those here who clearly think the NASCAR fans are inherently inferior to them because of that choice.

Just my $.02, from a pickup driving, Ferrari owning, NASCAR loving, Formula 1 fan.

 

For crying out loud, who's being a "snob?"

What I said was, NASCAR is boring. And it is.

 

Let's agree on one thing:

ALL racing is boring until the last 10 laps.