France - Communauté Française. FCF

oui j sais je fais baucoup de faute, l'écriture c'est pas mon fort mais le plus important c'est que vous me comprenez lol

 

c'est fou se que vous etes simpatique j vien ici pour discuter ferrari et j me retrouve a presque me faire insulter car j écrit pas bien à part sa tu sais faire quoi de respectueux ?

 

ça va, c'était pas bien méchant... Réspire, prend ta calif' et va faire un tour, détends toi quoi!

 

et quoi encore ?

"Although Ferrari will not officially take part in the 2010 North American Auto Show in Detroit, the company will display a 599XX on the Chrysler stand to celebrate the historic Fiat-Chrysler deal."

 

j'avais vu ça aussi.....curieux de ne même pas être à ce salon ........rigolo aussi, on annonce des délais phénoménaux pour obtenir certains modèles, un concessionnaire US propose une 458 Italia Neuve !!!!!!!! qui bien sûr ne sera certainement pas au prix catalogue.
les concessionnaires travaillent comme les constructeurs "classiques", ils rentrent des voitures neuves en parc

 

Faut pas croire, j'ai beaucoup de temps libre, et je passe içi 2 à 3 fois... par jour !!!
Je réalise que je dois passer une dizaine d'heure par jour sur les forums, 5 jours par semaine...
Ah ouais, ça commence à faire beaucoup quand même !!!

 

J'ai trouvé l'analyse de Sheehan trés fine et pertinente sur les motivations d'achat d'une Ferrari selon que l'on soit d'une génération ou d'une autre et en fonction de son age, j'ai laissé l'intégralité de l'article, le reste traite des options Ferrari et de la customisation, c'est un peu long mais intéréssant.


by Michael Sheehan

How many Komodo dragons does it take to cover the interior of a 430 Spyder?Today's vintage and collectible Ferrari buyers are usually male Baby Boomers in their late 50s or early 60s who have owned many cars, from Alfa to Zagato, over many decades. They can have one to a dozen or more collector cars, and their Ferraris are usually the top of the food chain in their collection. Most have built their business over decades and pay cash for their toys. They grew up with Italian or British cars and understand and can live with the idiosyncrasies and complexities of the older car. Long term, they view their cars as investments, and a limited-production, coachbuilt, topless or competition Ferrari is expected to be the best one.

New Ferrari dealers have always offered a different perspective, with showrooms graced by the latest offerings from Maranello. Today's new Ferrari buyers are usually in their mid-30s to mid-50s, have "newer" money, and are not afraid to spend it. They want the state-of-the-art, plus the peace of mind of new-car reliability, and will write the check to pay for it. New-car pride of ownership and a factory warranty are an acceptable trade-off against instant depreciation. Their Ferraris are not investments, but then neither are the M-Bs or BMWs that share their garage space. These buyers are unusually disinterested in the older Ferraris and many don't know a Lusso from a 275 GTB.

A dizzying array of options available
For decades the only options on any Ferrari were the paint and interior color. If the buyer was well connected at the factory, he might be able to order an unusual paint or interior color combination. With the reign of Luca di Montezemolo the rules changed, and Ferrari joined other high-end manufacturers with an options list. In mid-1998, Ferrari introduced the Carrozzeria Scaglietti Personalization Program on the 355, 456, and 550, which began modestly by offering "Daytona" seats, modular wheels, fender-mounted "Scuderia" shields, and colored seat piping. With the introduction of the 360 and 575, the options list ramped rapidly upward, with Challenge grilles, carbon fiber interior, engine and intake kits, and so on. Various options packages have been marketed, such as the Fiorano handling package, or the Schumacher option for the 550, and later for the 456, which featured special colors and trim, or the recent Sessanta package for the 612. Ferrari's latest is the Atelier (or Studio) customization program, usually reserved for the 612 and 599 buyers who want to pick out the options for their car at the factory.

The buyer has five minutes of glory
The options lists grew ever longer, and with the new California Spyder, Ferrari has done a masterful job of the up-sell, giving each buyer his five minutes of glory checking off items on the options list, all in the name of today's exclusivity. We start with a plain Jane stripper California Spyder, with gas guzzler and delivery costs included, for a mere $197,349. Under "Racing and Track" options one can add MagneRide Dual Mode shocks for a modest $5,114.

Next on the options list is the "Exterior Colors" section, with an "out of range" paint option for $8,712. If one prefers, he can have Ferrari's "COLORI ANNI '50 e '60" paint for only $10,568. Want to add Scuderia fender shields? Another $1,542. Red brake calipers? $1,259. Black external A-pillars? $1,889. 20" Diamond Finish Sport Wheels? $4,422. How about a carbon fiber rear panel? Another $1,889. And it doesn't stop there.

Moving to the "Interior and Materials" list, one can order a carbon fiber driving zone with LED steering wheel for $6,768. Daytona-style seats for $3,305. Electric seats for another $5,194. Colored seat piping at $865. Colored seat belts for $802. A red tach for $724. Upper carbon fiber trim interior for $5,666 and carbon trim on the door panels for another $5,666. Alcantara passenger carpets will add another $2,407. A dual color interior with Daytona seats will tack on $5,509, while leather and Alcantara will add another $6,296.

Onto the "Equipment and Traveling" category, where an iPod connection is $881. Rear seat luggage is $3,221. Trunk-mounted luggage is another $6,216. Advanced headlights(?) add $1,809, while cruise control is $1,046. A front parking sensor is $1,470, while a rear camera is $3,463. The hi-fi sound system is $5,037....

In all, the California Spyder option list is 61 items long and growing. If one has a big enough checkbook, one could spend $100,000-plus on options--on a $197,349 car.

How about an alligator interior?
A few examples of options gone wild are a Fly Yellow with alligator interior 430 Spyder that resides locally. While the normal MSRP on a 430 Spyder is in the $215,000 range, s/n 152545 had an original MSRP of $413,034--about $150,000 for the alligator seats, door panels, steering wheel, roll bar hoops, sun visors, etc., for $200,000 in total options. One would think that after spending over $200,000 in options, the owner would keep it forever, yet it was back on the local dealer's floor after a mere 285 miles. Sadly for the owner, his very personalized options make the car much harder to sell, and so any equity in $200,000 in options is non-existent, a polite way to say he kissed off two hundred large.

Another example of what can only be described as wretched excess is a 612 Sessanta, s/n 157625. The Sessanta 612 was a limited run of 60 individually numbered 612s celebrating Ferrari's 60th anniversary. While all were heavily optioned, s/n 157625 was truly optioned out with Rolls-Royce Arctic White paint, white quilted leather, power seats, a white tachometer, red stitching and seat belts, diamond-quilted seat and door inserts, carbon fiber interior trim, white carpets and mats, a glass roof, white leather trunk with red stitching, shields, front and rear parking sensors, ball-polished modular wheels with silver center caps and gold Prancing Horses, yellow calipers, carbon ceramic brakes, and more. The price? A modest $450,000. When this car comes up for resale, it will bring south of $200,000, and that number will only keep dropping....

What would Enzo think?
I know I'm giving away my advanced age, but I grew up in a time when owning a Ferrari meant the ultimate in driving experience, usually reserved for long drives on late nights or weekends, often at indecently high speeds. I owned and drove s/n 12547, the alloy-bodied prototype Comp Daytona, as my only car from 1974 to 1977, and hit 150 in 4th gear, every night, on my way home to Laguna Beach. I'm the first to admit that run would be impossible today, as the entire area has been built up and traffic is much heavier.

The performance of today's Ferraris is now so far past speed limits that they are virtually unusable in real-world circumstances. Gone are the days of would-be owners reading Road & Track late into the night and setting their own valves. Like a Rolex or Cartier watch, today's Ferraris have become road jewelry and fashion accessories. And they are eagerly bought by those who can afford to outfit them the way they want. I'm not claiming the old days and ways were better--just different. And the truly wealthy Ferrari enthusiast today can have the best of both worlds: a new California Spyder, customized to his taste, with a warranty, on one side of the garage ready for the daily grind, and a vintage California Spyder on the other for cruising to Cavallino and the Quail.


©1999 - 2009 Michael W. Sheehan - All rights reserved.

This article originally appeared in Sports Car Market Magazine.

 

Bugatti Veyron 16.4, Grand Sport et Fbg Hermès à l'exposition Bugatti 100 Expo au Musée Autoworld de Bruxelles
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juste une Boano qui appartient à la collection se trouvant dans le musée Autoworld, le reste est principalement des marques françaises ou belges. Les Bugatti étaient là pour l'exposition Bugatti 100 Expo, sûrement la dernière exposition pour le centenaire de la marque

 

bordel il y a une de mes photos en intro. Les gens ne se font pas chier quand meme

 

Artho !!!

C'est moi qui ai fait la vidéo !!!
Et c'est moi qui t'ai pris ta photo !!!

Je m'explique...
En fait avec un autre membre du forum que tu connais bien (la dernière fois que tu l'as vu vous avez fait un shoot de Enzo dont il était le passager... facile à trouver! Sur la vidéo de la 458 c'est lui qui conduit...), on se demandait qui de nous deux allait t'envoyer un mp pour te faire tourner la vidéo, et puis je crois que tout les deux, on a zappé !!!

Par contre pour les conditions de tournage de la vidéo on ne pourra pas en dire plus... :-(

J'espère que la vidéo vous a plu en tout cas !!!

 

bon alors si c'est toi et zelolo, çà va! A part que cet enfoiré par au Cavallino Classic dans quelques jours et que je reste dans la neige

Je me doutais quand même du coup après avoir vu quelques images de la 458 noire en campagne sur supercarfrance.

Vous vous faites pas chier quand même (pour la voiture)

 

Arf ! Je t'ai laissé un MP sur SCF, mais du coup, ça sert plus à rien !!!

Oui, moi aussi je lui en veux de se barrer à Miami le veinard !!!
Mais c'est ta faute, c'est à cause de ton récit (entre autre!) qu'il va voir du pays !