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Discussion in 'Detailing & Showroom' started by reinerkaiser, Sep 28, 2004.

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  1. Kevallino

    Kevallino Formula 3

    Feb 10, 2004
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    Hi Reiner

    Finally get to see your car - I quite like it. Nice wheels as well.

    Cheers
    Kevin
     
  2. cinquevalvole

    cinquevalvole Formula 3

    Feb 6, 2004
    1,158
    Germany, Bayern
    Sorry but this is pseudo & wannabe nevertheless craftsmanship seeems to be good :-(
    I like the 348 original design, love the 355, but I am against this thing between.
    A 348 with some 355 parts always appears like cheap replica bastards.
    Better go back or get a real 355.

    If you purchase a 348 you have to commit to the 348 styling.
    Otherwise you better chose a different Pininfarina design (328).
    Acting like this devaluates the 348 and the 355 series and the whole brand.

    forza

    cinque
     
  3. dretceterini

    dretceterini F1 Veteran

    Apr 28, 2004
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    Sorry, but any Ferrari post circa 1970 does little for me....and I dislike modified cars.
     
  4. damcgee

    damcgee Formula 3

    Feb 23, 2003
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    I like it a lot, and you do too, so congrats!
     
  5. platinumsc

    platinumsc Formula Junior

    Apr 15, 2004
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    I'm torn. 355 is my second fave Ferrari of all time so I like that yours looks like it. On the other hand, I don't like anything fake...people, diet soda, etc. Just my opinion. Looks good though.
     
  6. Skindiver

    Skindiver Karting

    Apr 22, 2004
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    It looks really good but so porno and I would not have done it.

    Much of ferrari's appeal is in its exclusivity. Thats why they cost so much new.
    If they become too affordable and available everyone can have one and then no one wants one anymore. Part of keeping up that aura involves expensive services and parts and the perception that supermechanics need to work on them only.
    For this reason most people tend to look after them and not modify them.

    When they become cars that become game for modification like Panteras etc they will lose their exclusive appeal. This affects the greater pool of owners. This is why there is often so much justified resistance from "Old boys clubs" and purists to modifying these cars.

    As such, I think classic Ferraris' are selling far too cheaply these days.

    Skin.

    (I'm not talking about a set of bolt on rims.)
     
  7. FTD

    FTD Rookie

    Nov 19, 2003
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    I almost mistook it for a real Ferrari.....please tell me you're going to put it back and buy a 355.
     
  8. Cuore

    Cuore Karting

    Apr 28, 2004
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    I agree!
     
  9. reinerkaiser

    reinerkaiser Karting

    Nov 25, 2003
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    Skin,

    haha brilliant analysis, just like the LA girls going for a set of bolt ons and a few nip-tucks to look better. I guess the purists would be disgusted by THAT as well?
     
  10. Skindiver

    Skindiver Karting

    Apr 22, 2004
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    Like with cars i suppose some dont mind a bit of silicone. However others do regardless of how tempting it is on the surface.

    To continue the analogy.. i have it on good authority that when all is cut and dried, women choose men that they feel can protect and provide for them and their offspring. Men on the other hand seek out women that will bear offspring. A good waist to hip ratio is one of the attracting factors, not because it looks good, which it does, but for the deeprooted and hidden attribute of appearing to be healthy and fertile signalling good DNA to produce superior offspring.

    Now, while i often succumb to the pleasures afforded by a wee bit of silicone in hand, i seriously find myself questioning the merits of surgery whereby forgeries of superb quality are presented on a regular, even alarming basis. I wonder how many have succumbed to propagate with such illusionists only to wonder what the hell happened whan the kids are born and their features are in no way representative of the maternal participant. Taken to its extreme, this can mutate entire generations.

    In the same way it can be reasoned that modification of a marque can seriously and deliteriously affect entire generations of owners and the populace that lust after their trappings. The willing injection of unwanted DNA even while under the influence of 30% proof "Because i "Can" may belittle the work of art most hold dear reducing their graceful chariots to mere tin chargers and the admiring glances of the have nots to sneerful smirks.

    In another sense, and i' have little appreciation for the arts , its like buying the Mona lisa and drawing dracula teeth, a moustache and glasses on her because you can, and you like it that way. The affect on the art world upon learning of your "insanity" will no doubt suffer instant catatonic'cism. (sic) and the painters stocks will fall annoying the investors and setting the philistines a - giggling.

    Most would agree that the owner of such art has a responsibility to the rest of the 'art world' to respect the art, the artist, and the art world by ensuring its best preservation for present and coming generations.

    I know and have said that its just a car, But in the same way as the Mona Lisa is also just a painting.

    :)

    In closing, no one has the right to tell anyone what to do with their breasts. but when their dancing partners find themselves saddled with a nest of worthless misbehaved flat faced buck -toothed mutants and are held to ridicule by a good percentage of their peers, they have only themselves to blame. Then to turn these out into the world to further inseminate and insinuate themselves into the greater gene pool is criminal. Like with most things at the end of it all for me it boils down to innate classiness and its better not to do it.

    Please take this pre'cis light heartedly in prose, but seriously in intent as meant.

    Skin.
     
  11. 348Angel

    348Angel Rookie

    Nov 18, 2003
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    Hey Reiner,

    Good pics. I like your car, I like the look. Of course, I favor the 348 look just because of mine. But, I have always liked the 355. I still think the 355 was the last good body design. If I had to get another Ferrari, I would lean towards the 355, but with it being so similar to the 348, it would be silly to get it. I am very happy with my 348. Anyway, I love my cheese grater doors! Ya, it is kind of 80's, kind of Miami Vice, but I used to love that show! Your car looks great!
     
  12. f360racer

    f360racer Karting

    Sep 14, 2004
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    Hey everyone. I just don't get it. I love Ferraris! I might be crazier than most on this subject. I have a Ferrari misc. collection in the thousands (10+) But I don't understand when Ferrari owners are just so exclusionary about the cars. I have owned 328,365,360Spyder, and a 308 currently. I am glad when these cars are enjoyed by as many people as possible. Ferrari will never be a Ford, period. And many Ferraris will never be a Ford GT40. A

    About the 348/355, there are many Ferrari cars out there that have non-Ferrari parts out there example all you guys and gals who race your Ferraris. Yet one someone puts 355 body panels on a 348 you all want to exclude this car for some reason. If I took the time in my archives, I could find hundreds of Ferraris from the past which are some of the most desirable even though they have been updated by their owners and dealers and even the factory itself. Most of these were updated when new models came out and the "old" one could be modified easily and sometimes even when extensive mods had to be made.

    I believe that if these were the "good old days" whan Ferrari didn't sell thousands of cars a year. They would have been happy for all you 348
    owners to have your cars updated!! Well times have changed and now some Ferrari owners look down at those who undertake these themselves.

    For the record I personally like stock Ferraris but only because I think the're beautiful as is. I think the added expense of aftermarket changes (cosmetic) are too expensive for me. I'm not a millionaire, I have a family and I am a member of the US Armed Forces. Yet I understand all of you who have the means and the want to change the cars as this makes it yours as you see fit. Go ahead!!
     
  13. Jdubbya

    Jdubbya The $10 Trillion Man
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    Dec 28, 2003
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    Wow, great writing. Poor theories but great writing. To compare a car to a human being is a little far fetched even though most of us attribute human emotions or feelings to them.

    First of all cars do not go out and "inseminate and insinuate themselves". A car does not reproduce or have genes. Saying that "modification of a marque can seriously and deliteriously affect entire generations of owners and the populace that lust after their trappings" is WAY far fetched (I've got to admit I love that sentence though!!!). While he very well may have negatively affected the value of his car, I fail to see how it will affect the whole marque. If that were the case, every time a Ferrari was totalled the value of those remaining would go down!

    The comparison to the Mona Lisa is also seriously flawed. There is only one Mona Lisa, there are many 348's. Modifying something that is one of a kind is a totally different ball game!

    Still, if it were up to me, I would rather buy a 355 than make a 348 look like one. In the end it is his car, and he is the one who has to live with it and try to justify it if, and when, he sells it.

    By the way, it looks like very good work to me!!
     
  14. FarmerDave

    FarmerDave F1 World Champ
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    Jul 26, 2004
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    Skin - I love it! I've always said, those women should be sued for false advertising!
     
  15. ETW

    ETW Formula Junior

    Nov 3, 2003
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    MA
    That is really cool! Do you have any pictures of the back of it? It's like a 355 without the power steering now. With a chip or ECU remapping or something like that you could probably get closer to the power of a 355. Do you have any more modifications planned?
     
  16. Spasso

    Spasso F1 World Champ

    Feb 16, 2003
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    He hardly did anything as destructive or detracting to the look of the car as what you describe.

    He updated the look, from a 'dated' look to a contemporary look. Not too hard to understand.

    Nothing fake about it. The process was an application of design evolution.
     
  17. Spasso

    Spasso F1 World Champ

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    Obviously he would have if he could have.

    The point everyone seems to be missing here is he has a 348 with the contemporary styling of a 355 for FAR LESS THAN THE DIFFERENCE in the price of the two models.

    Not everybody on this site can go out and buy what they want when they want, me included.
     
  18. Spasso

    Spasso F1 World Champ

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    A 355 Challenge type rear would be a nice finishing touch.
     
  19. snj5

    snj5 F1 World Champ

    Feb 22, 2003
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    The lurid reactions to Ferrari re-bodies is interesting as many very famous Ferraris are rebodies, even with major engine revisions. The popular 250 'Breadvan' began life as a 250 SWB when Ferrari would not sell Volpi a GTO. The PPG pace car Mondial one off re-body is valued far more than a standard Mondial. With the market swamped and awash in Ferraris as compared to the early years, I see even less reason to make a fuss. After all, are you buying a car or the 'brand' image? One car I really like is a 250 Lusso that I have seen at Grand Touring where they added a full brace of 6 Webers and dyno'd the engine at near 300 hp!
    I'm sure this entire project added to the enjoyment of the car, which is what these things are supposed to be about in the first place according to Ferrari - a passion. That is what sets the car apart from the rest.
    best to all
    rt
     
  20. elgin328

    elgin328 Formula 3

    Apr 11, 2004
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    All ferraris are dated, after a model change.Yes, the 348 is dated , but so what. It's still a ferrari that most of your friends would love to own. The 288 GTO, Daytona, & Dino are dated & there comanding a very healthy price. I am glag to be 1 of 1090 people on the planet to own a 348 spider, compared to the production #'s of today. I belive at some point the 348 spider will comand a higher price than some others due to the production #'s.

    Be proud of what model you own it's part of Ferrari history.
     
  21. zakeen

    zakeen Formula Junior

    Aug 29, 2004
    989
    Czech Republic
    What you have done was turned a 348 looking like a 355. You did a great job!

    Me, I would have left it a 348, cause I think thats the best looking ferrari.

    If you want it to look like a 355 and you like that, then you have done well, its perfect. Dont listen to what other people say!

    Good Job!
     
  22. spider

    spider Karting

    Jan 18, 2004
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    Elgen328
    you hit it!
    I am totally of your opinion.
     
  23. Yquem

    Yquem Formula 3

    Dec 2, 2003
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    As it came from the factory is the best.
    This is worthless, I am sorry.
     
  24. vinnih

    vinnih Rookie

    Sep 6, 2004
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    I don't like it.
    If you really love Ferrari's you don't rebuild your car.

    A 348 is suposed to a 348 and must stay a 348 and not a 355.



    That's my opinion, sorry
     
  25. f360racer

    f360racer Karting

    Sep 14, 2004
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    You purists are just not getting it. I'll take a remake over a pure never driven just out of the box whatever ferrari. It was probably driven and maybe even raced enough to require rebuilding and improving by Factory or Francorchamps or Chinetti etc... I know on this post its a 348/355 but remember the good old days. I wish it was so these care could be accepted just like just about all pre 60's Ferrari. They have all been changed in some way and some can never be brought back to Factory no matter how much money is thrown at it.

    Philip


    to quote from Stripes" Lighten up Francis!"
     

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