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From Porsche to Ferrari?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by bexar, Oct 12, 2005.

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  1. bexar

    bexar Rookie

    Jun 12, 2005
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    Austin,Port A,SPI TX
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    Peter
    I have a 2004 996 TT with 30K miles on it. I bought it as my "toy" but it quickly became my daily drive. Of course I have had it serviced regularly but it still amazes me that nothing has ever gone wrong with it. And I've driven it hard, very hard, including high speed runs of several hundred miles in 90-100 degree F temperatures. No overheating, no fading brakes, no loose trim. Just new tires every now and then. At the same time, my 2003 Range Rover has had numerous problems despite being absolutely pampered compared to the Porsche.

    But for some reason I'm thinking about a F430 Spider with the F1 tranny. From the looks of it I have to buy second hand and it'll be expensive because I don't like waiting.

    Can I expect the F430 to deliver every day drivability and reliability that comes even close to the TT?

    How about maintenance cost and frequency? Having never owned a Ferrari my closest experience is based on my neighbor's old Testarossa. That thing was an everything-leaking POS (just like the Range Rovers) that had always a problem or two. And some routine service (20K miles?) that supposedly cost $12K!!! Because of those mental images I always ruled out all Ferraris as expensive jokes but something changed his summer when I drove one. I'm not claiming it was better than the Porsche but it sure was different and enjoyable too.

    But I'll only buy one if I can really use it. I don't enjoy cars that are in the garage no matter how good they look. Any thoughts on the subject would be helpful. Thanks!
     
  2. henryr

    henryr Two Time F1 World Champ
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    keep your porsche.
     
  3. anawat

    anawat Rookie

    Oct 5, 2005
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    Saratoga
    I have 996 TT, 550 and 355. The porsche is much more suitable and easier all around for a daily driver.
     
  4. 1Turbo

    1Turbo Formula Junior

    Jan 26, 2005
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    AGREED !

    You have EXCELLENT taste in Sports Cars. 996 TT,C5Z & 355 here.
     
  5. 365boy

    365boy Formula Junior

    Nov 5, 2003
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    I guess it partly depends where you live. If it's California, then the Ferrari begins to look more feasible....

    John
     
  6. anawat

    anawat Rookie

    Oct 5, 2005
    35
    Saratoga
    I had S4, then S6 and currently have RS6. It's totally sleeper except to a real car geek. They're even more amazingly trouble free than my 996 TT. It pretty much just needs oil change now and then. I had one problem with RS6 in 2 years, the O2 sensor went bad (it melted actually). It was replaced quickly under warantee.

    My 996 TT has had more problems than RS6, but it's still very acceptable. It has two major problems: the spoiler unit in the back was replaced at about 2 years, and alternator went bad on me at about 4.5 years. The battery went dead a couple times. I probably don't drive it enough after I got the Audi beaters. When I was driving it almost everyday in first 2 years, it's pretty happy camper.

    I would buy the 911 TT again without hesitation. It's a great sport car that can be driven everyday. In fact, I put down a deposit for 997 TT already.

    Also, our 3-year-old daughter love the 996 TT. She love to ride in it. Her car seat fit ok in the back of 996 TT with the passenger seat moved all the way forward.

    Now, I've been thinking about replacing my 550 with something that my daughter may ride along. So the candidates are: 612, Vanquish and DB9. I test-drove 612 and DB9. 612 drives way better than the DB9. But the DB9 looks way better than 612. I am still trying to love the 612 looks, but so far it's not working.

    So for now, I'm keeping the 550.
     
  7. teachdna

    teachdna Formula Junior

    Sep 1, 2001
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    I think the advice you'll get is pretty consistent- and knowledgeable as many of us own both. Although there are exceptions- and you'll hear anecdotes about how lousy the Porsche is or how dependable the Ferrari is- the F-cars as a marque still don't match the dependability of the Porsches. That's not to say that you won't be able to drive the heck out of the F-car- but it will almost certainly cost you more to maintain than the Porsche.

    If you think that's going to bother you a lot, don't make the jump. The car will only break your heart. But for those of us lucky enough to own both, and willing to put up with the crap Ferrari will throw at you, the Ferrari is always more special, more involving and more exciting to drive on the street under normal circumstances.
     
  8. Iwanta348

    Iwanta348 Rookie

    Oct 11, 2005
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    I just sold my 996 convertible and intend to buy a Ferrari. Porsche are nice cars but too boring. Better than Ferrari if you intend to drive them every day.
     
  9. hardtop

    hardtop F1 World Champ

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    Ferraris cost more to buy and are more expensive to live with, period.

    430's are just out and have a lot of new technology in them, so, it's hard to say how reliable they will be. I have driven mine 1800 miles so far w/o a hiccup. (coupe w/stick). I have used it for everything from errand runs to the store to some track driving. It's been in rain and didn't even melt! I have found it surprisingly comfortable and usable for any type of driving. I have never owned a Porsche, so can't compare, but I would think the Porsche would be more practical for everydsay driving.

    This is Ferrari #7 for me and I am pleasantly surprised at how accessible all the service items are. As for maintenance, it calls for the 1st service at 5K (oil change & inspections). After that, service is supposed to be at 15K intervals, or once a year and consists of fluid changes and inspections. Spark plugs go at 30K intervals. Since there are no longer timing belts or valve adjustments, this could be a cheap car to maintain by exotic standards. I asked the dealer recently about service bulletins or recalls and he said there was one on very early F1 models to change out a bracket (I forgot details since mine is a stick). They have been out about a year now, so that's a good sign. He did say that with modern Ferraris in general, the F1 systems get the most warranty work by far, so I have eliminated that. Convertible tops have been known to be problematic also, but not for me! I intend to drive mine a lot through the warranty period. If it's a good boy, it may be a keeper.

    Dave
     
  10. Mojo

    Mojo Formula 3

    Sep 24, 2002
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    If you can afford a F430 you can afford the maintenance.
    If you like it buy it, If you want to play you have to pay , its all relative.
     
  11. patpong

    patpong Formula 3

    Jul 6, 2004
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    You're oviously a Porsche guy. Ferrari is not at all daily use. Not neccessary for mechanical reasons but value and sentimental reasons. Every time I take the Ferrari out it's always a special occasion, not for a special occasion but driving it is so special. It's a real treat to yourself. And I can't spoil myself everyday. Plus, I can't see my Ferrari parking any where. It might get ding. A Honda get ding you get one feeling but your Ferrari get ding you got certain feeling. Ferrari never just a car to me....
     
  12. bexar

    bexar Rookie

    Jun 12, 2005
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    Thanks for your feedback. I feel that there will be a trip to Dallas in the near future...
     

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