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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Gary(SF), Dec 22, 2003.

  1. Gary(SF)

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    FWIW...I'm just cutting and pasting, no comment on accuracy.

    >>Just got back from AWE Tuning after 3 pulls on the Mustang Dynometer:

    RWHP: 348.4 @ 7250 rpm
    Est. Fywheel HP based on 1.15 conversion factor: 400.66

    RWTorque: 262.4 @ 5250 rpm
    Est. Flywheel Torque: based on 1.15 factor: 301.76

    I will post the graph soon. Very Flat torque curve throughout the rpm range.

    This is based on completely stock GT3 configuration.
    Note: Flywheel conversion factor corrected to 1.15 per AWE<<
     
  2. robiferretti

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    hmmm, nice #'s
     
  3. rob lay

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    I think C5's or at least Z06's easily pull these numbers, don't they?
     
  4. allanlambo

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    LOL! Z06's pull about the same numbers, but why no mention when the Stradale is soo far off?
     
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  6. Mark(study)

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    So what did 360CS dyno? Does this thing make sense now?
     
  7. jbrosseau

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    yes they do pull those numbers ,but do it with alot more tq.
    vette's that is.
     
  8. rob lay

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    Because there's no proof the CS can pull those numbers. Where have you been lately?
     
  9. allanlambo

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    Well, lets see, so far we have one dyno, and numerous magazines tests where a Stradale, does not perform, atleast in acceleration, any better than a stock Modena.
     
  11. rob lay

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    Mark, that graph shows at least Ferrari is the best handling of the three. Not good for Allan and his 1/4 mile runs though.
     
  12. rob lay

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    Are you that thick? I already agreed with you dip****.
     
  13. allanlambo

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    Sorry, thought you meant that the posted dyno here was not proof enough for you a$$munch.
     
  14. allanlambo

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    I think the graph shows that they had a crappy driver at the wheel of the GT3 and Michael Schumacker in the Ferrari.
     
  15. Mark(study)

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    stock GT3 configuration
    RWHP: 348.4 @ 7250 rpm
    RWTorque: 262.4 @ 5250 rpm
    lap time 1:34.15


    vs

    360 Challenge-Stradale
    RWHP: 320.4 HP @ 8500 RPM
    RWTorque: 233.2 Ft-lbs @ 5750 RPM
    lap time 1:34.19
     
  16. jjstecher

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    Dude Allan why the hell all the hostility against everything Ferrari and Rob. Seriously you do contribute but if someone doesnt see thing your way you freak. Mr. Green was a troll but damn dude you are just as bad sometimes with the name calling and ****. Personally I know my 348 gets it ass kicked by a Lambo. Just like all of us know that the 400hp or less CS gets its ass whipped by the Ford GT with 500+ horse. I say who cars, big deal. My guess is Rob would kick your ass around a track in your SV anyday, does that mean the 355C is faster no, he just a better driver. Chill out man...I have never seen anyone complain so much and contribute so little.

    By the way the GT3 numbers are right on, have a friend up here had his dynoed as well and its within +/-2% of the numbers you posted.
     
  17. jjstecher

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    Sorry I mean that Gary posted.
     
  18. thomas_b

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    was the Porsche a US spec? otherweise the HP comparison is BS

    missing the weight comparison! - CS 3000lbs (owner's manual)
     
  19. Cavallino Motors

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    Who was driving the GT then?
    Grandpa Simpson?

    BTW that is Schumacher, not Macker.

    And in that test the same driver drove all 3 cars if I remember correctly. Right Mark?
     
  20. Cavallino Motors

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    Uh one more thing.

    The reason why you may think the GT3 is faster is that most GT3s are driven by pro or semi pro drivers. Most CSs are driven by average Joes. You can see the same with the Vipers. Much more HP than my car and yet they are slower around the track. Why? Not because they are slower but because they have Average Joes driving. HP compensates for bad driving but only so much.

    Also the reason why sometmes a Miata will surprise you in the rear view creaping up on you. Not the car is faster but the driver is. And trust me I have seen those. :)
     
  21. mk e

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    "I think C5's or at least Z06's easily pull these numbers, don't they?"

    A couple years ayear, the day I was at the dyno with my car, there was a 2000 C5 with headers, exhaust, cold air intake and K&N (if i recall correctly). I don't recall the torque, but it made 303 rwhp. I remeber because I beat him by 1 hp :)

    The Z06 #s look like a modded car to me
     
  22. bostonmini

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    Guys, I have seen a Z06 run in real life, very quick car, but there is NO WAY in stock form it puts out the numbers that were posted, again, the modding of these cars is easy bc they are so inefficient to start with. An exhuast alone can probably gain a solid 20 RWHP. I dont believe that a stock Z06 is going anything below the mid 12's in the quarter or 0-60 faster than maybe, mid to low 4's. Nothing to worry about;) But still, we need an ENGINE DYNO of the stradale, it HAS to be closer than 25 hp off of the "381 HP" porsche...
     
  23. Gary(SF)

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    The GT3 was a US car. They didn't list the weight in the post, but I believe it is in the ballpark with the CS, perhaps a little heavier. Current R&T lists curb weight at 3160, but I haven't seen actual scale weights.

    Gary
     
  24. allanlambo

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    Guys, it says on the dyno chart of the z06 that it is modded. Stock they put 340-350rwhp. Thats a fact, ive seen it.
     
  25. Kds

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    Nice to see that Porsche's advertising can be backed up with reality.....the "it's not broken in yet" line just doesn't cut it with me at all.

    Porsche dyno tests every engine for one hour and those powerplants that do not produce the minimum published HP figure (380 in the case of the GT3 in Canada) are not installed in production cars.

    When I was the GSM of a Porsche franchise I was told by factory reps that it is quite common for the engines to produce 5-10% more than the published number.
     

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