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Front wheel from a 348 put on a 355

Discussion in '348/355' started by Romanbauer, Feb 15, 2015.

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  1. Romanbauer

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    I'm an engineer performing a study. I don't own a Ferrari.

    Can you put a front 348 wheel on a Ferrari 355?
    If you could do that, I believe the 348 wheel is 17" and 355 wheel is 18".
    What is the motivation for someone to do that?
     
  2. bobzdar

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    You could, but I've never seen it done. Lots of 355 rims on 348's, though.
     
  3. driveitdaily

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    You could but then you have to modify the ashtray bearing coolant recirculation pump


    1994 ferrari 348 spider , third owner purchased may 2013 w/ 27804 miles
     
  4. ernie

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    There is ZERO motivation to do that. The 348 wheel is heavier and smaller = no good for performance. Having said that, the mounting holes are the same dimensions, so you could mount a 348 wheel to a 355. But you would be going backwards performance wise.
     
  5. SoCal1

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    I think there is great motivation

    We used to put 12 inch wheels 10 " wide on Toyota Corallas for the PR day Parade back in NYC. I miss that and I'm an Italian Pollack

    :)
     
  6. Wade

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    Yes

    Yes and yes

    355 wheels are more expensive
     
  7. dapper

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    and of course being an assymetric 348 wheel, it could only go on one side
     
  8. 4rePhill

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    [PEDANT]That's not true!

    The 348 wheel can go on either side of the car, it's just that those in the know will be able to tell if it's on the correct side or not.[/PEDANT]
     
  9. dapper

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    The wheel from any car ever made will go on either side of a 348, it may not bolt onto the car though, just sit there and lean against it (pedant).
     
  10. 166&456

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    Is the 348 wheel really heavier? I find that hard to believe, generally a larger rim wheel is heavier. The mass of larger rims is also located further from the center, leading to an increased flywheel effect of the assembly.
    Bigger isn't better here. If larger rims were the definitive answer to performance, F1, Nascar etc would be using huge rims with only a thin layer of rubber. They aren't.

    Also, performance is not the most important goal for everyone. My daily driver came with 18 inch wheels. After issues with them I reverted back eventually to 16 inch and they stayed there ever since, because it drove so much better with increased reliability, comfort and acceleration, at the sacrifice of surprisingly little roadholding performance.
     
  11. bobzdar

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    Nascar and f1 don't run 18"rims because the regs don't allow them to. Look at what lemans or other series that don't limit rim size run....
     
  12. KM1959

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    An engineer would not need assistance answering these questions.
     
  13. ernie

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    The 355 wheel is made out of magnesium.
     
  14. SoCal1

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    There is a sweet spot for wheel tire circumference at a set size / weight for optimal handling.

    Lets see how good our engineers are at "figurin"

    Do I know the answer? Only my hair dresser knows for sure.

    Bigger is not always better

    :)
     
  15. Robb

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    It would seem that most car magazines like EVO or Octane, recommend always going with smaller diameter wheels when two options are available for new cars. The writers always like the looks of the bigger wheels aesthetically but always recommend the purchase and use of the smaller diameter for better ride and performance.

    I am not an engineer but just an observation. This is always their recommendation without fail and normally is heard on Porsche and BMW M car "options." I would guess that since there were no options on the 348 or F355 that the oem set of wheels for each were the best solution that ticked all their criteria.

    Robb
     
  16. ernie

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    What I would like to know is, what is this "study" the original poster is conducting?

    Is it how to start a useless thread and see if he can get people to argue, then sit back and laugh? Because that is not a study it's called being a troll.
     
  17. Robb

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    #17 Robb, Feb 16, 2015
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    OP has posted the same exact copied text in 3 different sections here with varying answers...

    360/F430 section
    348/F355 section
    Technical section

    Not sure what the end game is. Maybe he is a student with a project due Tues or he is trying to design custom wheels.

    Robb
     
  18. Wade

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    Or... https://www.facebook.com/TrollEngineering
     
  19. vvassallo

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    Only a suicidal maniac would contemplate such a boner move as downgrading 355 wheels to 348 wheels, especially if they were the standard versions and not the Speciale, Challenge or Spider wheels. The early 348 Challenge wheels are 17's, look pretty good and might be candidates for that swap without risking anyone's life or limbs. Regardless, not a worthy pursuit.
     
  20. 4rePhill

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    Let's review what you actually posted:

    Your post implies that the 348 wheel can only be physically fitted to one side of the car because it's asymmetrical, but that's not correct!

    The 348 wheel can be fitted with no issues whatsoever, to either side of the car - That's just a fact. It will bolt onto the car with no problem, and the car will drive with no problem.

    The only thing asymmetrical about the 348 wheel is the spoke pattern - They are not directional wheels!

    It is also a fact that, the vast majority people looking at a 348 would not have a clue if the wheels are on the right side of the car or not.

    Forget all the talk of wheels form other cars and leaning wheels against the car, whether you like it or not, your post is incorrect! - The 348 wheel cannot "Only go on one side of the car" - As I say, that's just a fact!
     

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