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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by synchro, Jul 9, 2007.

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  1. hacker-pschorr

    hacker-pschorr Formula Junior

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  2. ^@#&

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    wrong car
     
  3. Newman

    Newman F1 World Champ
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    Only 1.1 mil? Maybe I can order 3 and use one for the winter.
     
  4. ArtS

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    Paul,

    I know of one that the long time owner used it as a daily driver for years, including putting snow tires on the Borranis in the winter!

    Regards,

    Art S.
     
  5. hacker-pschorr

    hacker-pschorr Formula Junior

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    It was a joke!

    Besides, the car in the movie was an MG.
     
  6. ryalex

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  7. donv

    donv Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I love the 365 California. Fantasy Junction has had that car for sale for a long time.

    That said, $1.1 million? Has a 365 California ever traded above $600k? And is it worth twice what a 500SF is? Enquiring minds want to know!

    After all, rarity is not always equal to high value. 4 seat Ferraris have never been worth a premium to their two seat brethren, whether open or closed. I have to wonder if a serious $600-700k offer wouldn't take that car.
     
  8. ryalex

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    I could have sworn the last sale I saw was like $620,000.
     
  9. PCH

    PCH F1 Rookie

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    Does the 365 California really have a higher market value then a 275GTB/4....I don't think so!
     
  10. zjpj

    zjpj F1 Veteran

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    No no - the car in the movie was supposed to be a 250 Cali, NOT a 365 Cali.
     
  11. dim

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    Sotheby's sold the s/n 9127 for EUR736,000 (Sotheby`s at Ferrari Auction, 28th June 2005), so FJ`s price is almost reasonable :)
     
  12. Marcel Massini

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    #9849 was sold at the RM Auction Maranello 20 May 2007 for US$ 979'550. Seller was longtime owner in Florida, buyer from England. Very nicely restored car.
    Marcel Massini
     
  13. GTE

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    In terms of pure esthetics and overall proportions, this isn´t the best Ferrari out there. Far from it. But it is an interesting piece of machinery none the less.
     
  14. GTE

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    is this #9889 by the way?
     
  15. Marcel Massini

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    Ex-Greg Garrison, will be at the Gooding auction in Pebble Beach 18 August 2007.
    Marcel Massini
     
  16. Kingair33

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    Marcel are you going to be there?
     
  17. donv

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    Wow, so I guess they are million dollar cars. Darn.
     
  18. DavidDriver

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    Wrong again. That was a custom kit built by Modena of El Cajon, Ca. It was a replica of a 1961 Ferrari 250 California.

    It had a custom frame, a fiberglass body and was powered by a Ford V8. I think the only thing MG about those cars is the tail-lights, which is probably why you assume they are MG's.

    That particular car you are referring to from "Ferris Bueller's Day Off", was for sale for a time at some exotic car place up on Sunset Blvd., (aka The Strip), just down the street from the Roxy and the Rainbow, up the street from The Whiskey, and across the street from The Viper Room.

    But IIRC, it was for sale there before there was a Viper Room...

    I guess that makes me an old fart... :p

    I looked at that car several times while it was for sale there. I think they were asking $35K, which seemed like a fortune at the time. :rolleyes: It was too! :p

    The kits were selling (until Ferrari sued Modena and forced them to stop production) for $10K for the body and a rolling chassis. I know that after the suit, they still had several that were unsold. A few were bought and used to rebody Ferrari 330's. Then the guy in El Cajon sold the remaining stuff to some guy in Chicago or Detroit or Pittsburg. I forget the details. But it was somewhere, "back there".

    I had wanted to buy one at the time, and had a little money I'd made on some real estate and a smart little investment I made in Glendale S&L, when the S&L scandel broke. I called the the guy at Modena several times, but never completed a deal.

    PS: The 365 California is a pretty car. But I still prefer the 330GTS ! :D
     
  19. DavidDriver

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  20. GTE

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    Does anyone have pictures of s/n 9127. It is supposed to be in ivory white and I am curious to see if that suits the car. Any other (colored) pictures of the 365 California will be greatly appreciated as well.
     
  21. BigTex

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    I like most of the styling, myself......only the rear deck of tailights gets a little wonky, foreshadowing the 308GT4 arrangement!
     
  22. BT

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    Not much rear seat leg room.... But I'd still like it!
    :)
    BT
     
  23. regaliaconcours

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    I restored the recently sold 9849 (Maranello Sale) for a client in Florida in the early 90's. I also restored 10077 while at the Nethercutt Collection, and refabricated the unique pop up high beams and front nose for 10327 which had been removed at some point in it's past. I believe that car just sold in Monterey for around the 1 mil. mark. In 1989 JB Nethercutt was offered 2.5 mil for 10077 by a German collector, which he declined. There were originally 14 built and 13 remain. They were built on the 330 GT 2+2 platform with the coach built Pinninfarina body. Powerd by a 365 2 cam motor with 3 carbs, 5 speed, A/C, power everything including steering. Not all cars were exactly alike, most notably the rear tailights and rear bumper treatment. They all featured the rather unique (and troublesome) pop up high beam lights mounted in the front nose panel. Pininfarina used this same styling element on the Princess De Rethy 330GTC's (I restored 9653, ex Dr. DeBakey) as well as one or two 365 GTC's around that same time. The 365 California is a big comfortable cruiser with plenty of power, and is really very nice to drive. If values of the other more well known cutom coach built cars continue to rise, which I believe they will, then the value of these very rare and unique cars should follow suit. Regards, Mike Regalia
     
  24. Bryanp

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    I'm envious that you got such quality time w/ one of the four De Rethy specials. They are one of my favorite Ferraris of all time; and a treasure trove of Pininfarina design cues that would show up on Ferrari production cars for the next 10 years.
     

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