Fuel-injected Dino

NE1 here know anything about the factory effort to apply fuel-injection to the Dino motor? I'm not talking about any Stratos developments. I remember reading something about the factory trying it in a book on Dinos. I was just wondering if that development car got into any private hands. If I remember correctly, the F.I. system was made by "BRE"? Or maybe just the components.

F.I. would be a great fix for our "stumbling" carbs, eh?

 

They tried it to get the emissions under the US limit. I don't remember seeing that they ever streeted the car, or sold it.

dm

 

Go to bed dave!!!!
Erik

 

Been there, done that.

Freakin' dog is out back taking a squirt.

dm

 

Ferrari engineers experimented with using an AE-Brico electronic fuel injection system as an attempt to meet U.S. exhaust emissions. There is a photo of the AE-Brico system in a Dino at page 88 of the Anthony Curtis book "Ferrari Dino," along with a very, very brief write-up on page 89 of the same book. The fuel injection runners and manifold looks a little like the top of the engine in my 1972 BMW 2002tii. It looks like it would be a REALLY MAJOR job to install, but it looks pretty cool in the photo. It also does not appear to have required any changes to the engine lid.

AE-Brico fuel injection was apparently used on the Aston-Martin DB6, but I have never seen the system in a DB6 -- I think every DB6 I have ever looked at had carbs.

Nathan Beehl's book, "Ferrari Dino 246GT" from the Super Profile series has several photos of a Dino heavily modified for hill climbs and racing owned at the time by Elwynne Owen-Jones. The car also was fuel injected, but with an unidentified system. The car had big air trumpets and had a cutout through the engine cover so the massive air intake trumpets could breath freely. 2 photos specific to the fuel injection system appear at pages 32 and 55. Along with fuel injection, the car had Cosworth pistons (like my 246GTS), larger valves, reground cams, and a dry sump. It reportedly made 245BHP (unlike my car - drat) at 7500 RPM.

I'd love to see either one of those cars. Perhaps someone from the UK could enlighten us as to the Elwynne Owen-Jones car? And, does anyone know what happened to the Ferrari test Dino?

Mark Nerheim

 

Yes, this is what I read.

I wasn't aware of this car. Do you have this book? Can you scan the pics and post them? I'd love to see the pics. 245bhp power would be SOOOO NICE!

As would I. Mark, thanks for the info.

 

Nathan posts in Vintage regularly.

Perhaps we could ask him to post on this as it is his book.

I'll shoot him a PM.

dm

 

I don't believe fuel injecting the 246 would be an easy job! I looked at the possibilities once and concluded that with the very short intake runners, that there is little room for injectors. I then looked at injectors in the throttle bodies, which are available as a bolt on unit, however the injector ports are parallel with the throttle shafts and are ruled out because the bodies are stacked very tight together with no room for angled injector ports. It could be done another way but would probably be a major engineering job. I also would like to see pics if any are available.

 

Gary -

I'll be seeing you next weekend and I'll bring the books with the photos.

Mark

 

Looking forward to it Mark!

 

I always assumed that was a typo and he meant DBS/6 or DBS V8

 

I'll ask an AM buddy of mine about that.

Mark

 

Here's the picture from his book. "Ferrari Dino 246GT Super Profile" by Nathan Beehl, of the injected motor.
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really nice thread, I always wondered what power you could get out of a Dino engine with some serious effort. So you could go from 200 to 250... that's a decent increase which you would definitely feel.
I wonder what it would take to get to 300 or so?

 

I think if you follow the development of the Stratos, you can see what's needed to get crazy turbocharged power.

 

need4speed, what is a 'stratos'?

 

Lancia Stratos used the Dino engine. They did a lot of development for competition culminating in a Group5 turbocharged car.