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Fuel Pump Pipe 1982 GTSi

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  1. Imatk

    Imatk Formula Junior

    May 6, 2007
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    Ok so I had a fuel leak... turned out the end of the pipe basically cracked off of the pipe itself.

    So I bought, what I thought, was the correct pipe, but the one I have is slightly smaller on the loop end than the original.

    I can get the small cylinder to almost fit in there, but it stops about half way.

    I looked and it appears that there are only two different parts for this assembly.

    One is for the QV and the 328 models (maybe others I don't know) and it is shaped exactly like the one off of my car which is not a QV but an '82 GTSi.

    That part number is:
    119305
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    The other part number is shaped like a "U" and looks completely different.

    That part number is
    115532

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    This is a comparison of my old pipe eyelet and the new one. It's not really apparent, but the new one is slightly smaller preventing the cylinder from going in and through.

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    So my question is... do I have the wrong part number... is there one that is only for the '82 that is a different number but the same shape as the one for the QV and not "U" shaped?

    OR do I have the right part number and an aftermarket pipe (which I'm guessing it is) and I need to just file the damn thing to get the cylinder to fit?

    Wondering if anyone has run into similar issues.

    Thanks
     
  2. Imatk

    Imatk Formula Junior

    May 6, 2007
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    Ok disregard the above post... I'm leaving it up for anyone else that runs into the same thing

    The cylinder will go through but you basically have to screw it in, once it hits the threads.

    The old pipe just pushes right through, but I suspect maybe that's either because it's 40 years old and is just worn, or maybe the part you get is ever so slightly smaller on one side.

    Either way if you run into the same issue, just thread it in... works just fine... sorry for the long post.
     
  3. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    It would've been fine to file that ID surface a little to get the banjo bolt to fit thru easily -- the sealing surfaces are the flat faces of the eyelet (not the thru hole). In your photo, it looks like there is a little "flash" left around the ID of the hole = so just a manufacturing quality issue.
     
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  4. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I am confused. Which pipe is it? The remanufactured 119305 you show has knurling and the wrong fitting you show has none.
    Which pipe has the wrong fitting? I know who is remanufacturing the 119305 and I have bought them and had no issue so I am curious.

    The 80-82 GTSi did not use that part so at some time in its life it got changed, probably to make what was available work.

    The wrong fitting looks more like a carb banjo which often did have 2 different diameters.
     
  5. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    The 119305 pipe is used with the Bosch 69532 fuel pump that has the replaceable external check valve and is used on later 308QV and 328.

    The 115532 pipe is used with the Bosch 69523 fuel pump that has the built-in non-replaceable internal check valve and was used on 308i-2V and early 308QV.

    The Bosch 69523 fuel pump was unavailable for a while so, when a circa 1980-1983 car needed a new fuel pump/check valve, it had to be updated to use the Bosch 69532 fuel pump and the 119305 pipe. Your car has been updated = it's a good thing to have been done (as, if the check valve fails, just it can be replaced rather than the whole fuel pump assembly).
     
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  6. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    The failure rate on the pumps with an internal valve was so high we intentionally quit using them. When you took the fuel fitting off the end and looked into the pump you could see the spring for the valve winding itself out and the check valve no longer worked.
     
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  7. Imatk

    Imatk Formula Junior

    May 6, 2007
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    The part I got was the 119305, but it didn't have the knurling on the end like in the first photo, it was smooth.

    It worked fine, I just had to put it in the correct way. But then again it could have just been slight manufacturing intolerance... so if it didn't go the right way you could always just file it a little and get the cylinder in I suppose.
     
  8. slfan

    slfan Karting

    Apr 26, 2010
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    Hello Imatk,

    Quick question: can you please tell me who is remanufacturing and selling fuel pipe 119305. Mine is a bit bent and I would like to install a new one.

    Thanks,
    AM
     
  9. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    T Rutlands. Parent company is Motion Products.
     
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  10. Imatk

    Imatk Formula Junior

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    The one I got is from here

    https://awitalian.com/product/fuel-pipe-119305.html/
     
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  11. slfan

    slfan Karting

    Apr 26, 2010
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    Rifledriver & Imatk,

    Thank you very much for the information.

    Best regards,
    AM
     
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