Full restoration cost on a Miura?

Zack:


It has to be over six figures. It also has to do with what level of restoration you seek. I know that is not alot of information. Bobileff Motor (S.D.), has done quite a few restorations. A superb restored car has a value today of 450K+/-.



You may want to contact someone, who has recently completed a full restoration. A good place to start, is by contacting the LCA, and the Lamborghini Owner's Club out of Florida. They can put you in touch with an enthusiast, that has recently had the same endeavor.



Also - As Tom mentioned, make sure it is not a fake SV. Their are plenty of cars running around with SV parts.

 

Whoa Nellie!!! if you got the car for a REALLY good price, and seeing as it is an SV (verified I hope) Then it may be worth it to restore. But with full mechanical restoration..and body, remmeber Miuras have a serious hidden rust problem due to how they constructed the chassis. Lots of custome fab work is involved here. Interior and mechanicals will also be very expensive.

If your going to go all out with a Pebble Beach concourse resto..you could hit the 200k mark quite fast. But considering these SV Miuras are hitting close to 300k on the market it may well be worth it. I may be a bit low on the resto figure..but usually in a resotation, costs can ballon out of control very fast. Rule of thumb..once you have a close estimate for a restoration..double it..that thats your cost.

 

I here JRV has a great rate on all Miura work

 

cost me around $80k to restore my 86 Countach, engine/trans rebuild, suspension, radiators, electrical, + paint.

If you some work you can save $.

I would HIGHLY suggest you look at parts availability & prices before committing to this.

Countach parts are quite hard to come by so Miura parts must be even more difficult to find and more $.

Expect retarded parts prices.

Good Luck

 

That is not an SV.

 

Vin tag, is located to the far left hand area (passenger side of vehicle), located just under and inside the front bonnet. The tag is located close to the firewall.


It cannot be missed, if someone is looking for it.


The body looks pretty clean.

 

From the pics it seems to be a late P400/ early S. can you please take pictures of the interior ?

BTW its market value would be in the 130 / 160 K € AFAIK

 

If it needs a "full restoration", I'd say budget $150,000. I'm assuming that it might need frame work, and a complete mechanical overhaul. Interior is cheap by comparison, as is paint. Hard to tell from the pics, but the paint job doesn't look too bad. Things like small dents are potentially minor issues, when compared to the cost of engine work.

You might need to spend less than that, depending on who does the work, and how much frame work you need done, and to what level you end up restoring. If it doesn't need Mechanical or frame work, you might get by with as little as $40-$50K.

I'm working on a Miura Buyer's guide, which might help you out. Version 1 will probably be ready in a month or so (but don't hold your breath!)

 

Am I the only one here
who thinks a restoration is unnecesary in that car?

 

I would have to see it in person. Pictures hide a lot of flaws sometimes....

 

I was actually going to say $200-250k if you want a Pebble Beach level car. I've heard a few numbers kicked around the 160-180k range, but that was a few years ago.

 

I’m working from memory here, but it’s a Miura, not an S and certainly not an SV. The strip around the windscreen was matt black with the Miura and chrome with the S. It also has a manual window winder - the ‘S’ had electric motors. I can’t spot any other features, such as the mechanism for opening and locking the engine, from the pictures posted. (the shape of the grab handle is a good clue, but there is so much stuff inside the car I can’t see it).

The problem here is that most Miuras have a thin gauge metal chassis - they used a thicker gauge from just before the ‘S’ on. This is structurally important if there is any rust present. There usually is.

Picture this:

A balmy summer’s evening. The award dinner for you went well, though to tell the truth you are a bit deaf from all that constant clapping and cheering. You and the wife / gf emerge from the club/hotel/ where your Miura is already waiting, a perfect object of riveting beauty The admirers gather, some holding handkerchiefs under their chins as they drool in envy. The parking valet on your side tips YOU. You slide in behind the wheel ; your wife/gf folds her long legs into the passenger foot well, and then, before either door is closed, there is a ‘SPRONG!!’ and suddenly the car lurches like a wet dog on his first shake, your seat drops six inches, and the steering wheel punches you in jaw. The wife / gf screams that the windscreen has fallen into her lap, that you shouldn’t have eaten the desert, and anyway, she should have worn the other black dress. Dazed, deafened and shaken, you wonder why you are being folded like meat in a Subway sandwich, then routine takes over. By habit you pump the Webbers and twist the key, the V12 fires up, by habit you let out the clutch. As the howls from the passenger side escalate the car reluctantly shudders forward and you leave the club/hotel/White House with sparks roaring out from the freshly folded floor as it grinds down the drive, the doors doors unable to close, try their best, banging against the edge of the rear wheel wells.



Or something like.

 

Very Very True.

 

The car does not appear to be an SV (rear fenders do not appeared to be flared, the eyelashes on the headlights are not correct for SV, the front bumper area is not SV type, black trim on the windshield and headlights, might be a P-400 or P-400S, can't quite tell).

If you get me the chassis number I can tell you what it is. Easiest place to find it is to open front bonnet, look at plate just rear of radiator in front, or look at plate on passenger's side, next to fuel pump. Look for a four digit number, probably starts with a 3, 4 or 5.

Cost of restoration by Bobileff is $150,000.

If the car is for sale, and you pass on it, please PM me with details.

Thanks

Alberto

 

Or -

On 26 December 2005, I went out for a day of fun. I took my very early 1967 model (with a body gauge of 0.9mm AL), and managed to go for a nice aggressive drive in the country.

As I drove my car at fast speeds, I was using the original cars thin as a dime wooden steering wheel, 215 series Pirelli tires, and the modern-for-1967 Girling disc brakes. Somehow this brave car, managed to keep up with a small group of modern Ferraris and one 99VT Diablo. - However this was not the first time.

During August 2005, the same early Miura, managed to hang with 17 Lamborghinis, driven by a bunch of young L/P drivers, with their hair on fire. It was a blast driving with all the modern cars, through the hills and canyons of LA. The car also had a nice hi-speed pass.

After the awesome fun in LA, she was rewarded with time on the grass in Monterrey. As far as the wife / gf screaming, that is'nt from being in the car.

 

That's why it's IMPERATIVE to buy one without chassis rust!!!!

 

So true, so true. Whats the rule again? Something like $150K for 90 points, and $10,000 per point after that up to 100 (w/o any guarantees of ever making it!) LOL!

 

My favorite is "Pebble Beach is the only place where millionaires actually have a shot at beating billionaires."

 

Wasnt it Jay Leno that said that?

 

Zach... I suggest reaching out to Will DeGroot. He restored Kirk's 1970 S which looks just like the one in your pix.

 

I would strongly echo WilliamH post with regard to parts availablility and pri ce. I know of a Miura in the UK owned by one of our club members which he had restored, took over three years, and a sturdy five figure sum(sterling pounds), during the restoration the car had to be shipped back to the factory as Lamborghini had to manufacture some of the parts!!
Steve