Fun video of C-130J air show - Paris 2011

Pretty great video! I like the HUD--wish all planes had it.

Is the J for JATO?

 

No, not for JATO. Just the latest model. New fly by wire, 6 bladed props. Lots more power than the H model.

Went from a 4 seater to a 2 seater. Bad, bad machine especially when you consider that the first model rolled off the showroom floor in 1956.

GT

 

No, but it probably should be cause that's what it feels like in the J model...

The J model of the Herc has 4 Allison 2100 engines on it. These are free turbine engines that have a lot more power than the T56's that were on the old 130's. A lot more climb rate and a lot more power for stuff like this. When they created this model they had to rework the wing because it would have twisted to a pretzel with the higher thrust engines under it.

Only downside is that the new engines take longer to spool up since the gas generator has to speed up to get the power up. With the old single spool T56's, the engines and props were always at 100% speed. All you needed to do was dump in more fuel and as fast as you could move the throttle, the power was there. With these engines you have to think a bit ahead and you could see that in when the pilot called for power, he was acting ahead of when he needed it, and then he confirmed the engines were spooling up each time. So, a bit more pilot workload, for lot more performance, it's worth it.

 

Great information. Thanks!

GT

 

Just from the look of things I would guess it's a Lockheed crew flying a USAF aircraft. Beige flight suits and no rank on either pilot.

It was interesting to hear the comms as they obviously had some performance points they had to hit and someone was stating continue as they (presumably) were at the required energy/altitude levels in order to safely complete the next maneuver.

GT - Compared to the E/H model the J is a rocketship. On takeoff you gotta crank the nose up and CLIMB so you don't overspeed the gear doors.

 

Reminds me of the American Airlines pilots who WOULD NOT CLIMB THE 707's on take off after they received the airplane. They stuck to DC-7 procedures and made low long climb outs instead of using the thrust of the jets to initiate a steeper initial climb.

 

The vapor trails that come off the J props are pretty neat
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Sticking to old procedures with new airplanes can get you into trouble. The AA Electra that crashed in the East River on approach to LGA (in only its twelfth day of service) was due, in part, to a pilot using DC-6 procedures.

 

Great shot! Very cool.

As someone who's only ever visited a flight deck on a 747 out over the pond somewhere I have a question about the video; Seems there are almost constant warning buzzers, bleeps and even voice commands ("altitude", "gear" etc) - I presume this is because he was knowingly pushing the envelope rather than SOP?.... If the latter, I could see 'em getting turned off! - Is that even possible?

Cheers,
Ian

 

Deeply ingrained training is a difficult thing to change in an emergency, too. I think that I mentioned it before about the NWA 377 that had to ditch in Puget Sound right after take off when it began to vibrate and lose airspeed even though the pilot called for METO power. He repeatedly asked the flight engineer if he had closed the cowl flaps and the answer was yes. When the airplane was raised and examined , they found that the cowl flaps were wide open in the full up position. The flight engineer had just transitioned from DC-6's to the Stratocruiser and the cowl flap switches operated in the opposite direction. The cowl flaps on a Stratocruiser with R4360's are huge and cause deadly turbulence over the horizontal tail and produce huge drag. Of course, the pilot was blamed for the accident.

 

Yeah, a lot of the squawking is because of their flight profile. Some stuff you can punch off some you can't.

My favorite button is "Tact On" which is for flying tactical low level so you it doesn't start hollering "terrain, terrain" every 30 seconds. Of course when you are flying up high and "tact" is off you can just say whatever mean thing you want

 

That's right. The pilot was Wayne Roberts, who is a chief test pilot at Lockheed.

 

Like the C130 demo, the C27 flight was pretty impressive

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A turbo prop version of the Chase Avitruck