Future midsize Ferraris...

Never with a V6 or supercharged or the same dimensions as a 308....WHY?

Unless a newer, significantly cheaper method for producing carbon-fiber comes around in the near future, aluminum will always be preferred by Ferrari because it's so much stiffer and lighter than steel and offers more cargo and interior space......V8s, at least, for every Ferrari, Fiat can do V6's and small bodies......and the F40 will remain the first and last unnaturally aspirated Ferrari....

A carbon body will be on the next Ferrari supercar, the F70 or whatever it may be called. But the regular line-up will remain aluminum because of the space and costs issue, even though it demands a larger car. Thus far, I've heard nothing but awe-struck praise of the aluminum 430. One personal, non-journalist driver even said it handled like a go-kart. It doesn't appear that size is always a penalty. The same applies to the 612, which is the length of a Chevy Tahoe, but handles better than a 575.


Forza,


Cavallini


P.S. Best wishes to you and your fellow countrymen recovering from the devastation. Hopefully you and yours were unscathed.

 

Not a Ferrari a Mazer may be?

 

a small ferrari must have a NA engine.
why not a car, with the same price tag than a 997...just to beat Porsche on his market...

Why not a small ferrari with a V6 version of the F430 V8...with same bore, stroke...just with 2 cylindre less...will remain 367 Hp for a 3.2 L...and less electronic...must be fun...

 

A modern day Dino would be great, 3 litre v6, 350 hp and a targa top, would killl the 911 in the enthusiast segment of the market, although it may hurt Masser too much and they already meet their sales target so I guess it will never happen. If it did, I would be at the front of the q.

 

This thread and the other similar one are describing an NSX -- a great car out of the box, which could have improved with time, but received no development work cause Honda couldn't sell them. Not enough people willing to pay big bucks for that brand.

 

but their will do it for a ferrari...like they do for a stupid 911...

 

I agree, they need to bring back the Dino. Something kind of like a Lotus Elise, a really fun track car. It's just a matter of time until it happens.

 

The 288 was a turbo, wasn't it?

Ken

 

the f40 is not the first turbo ferrari...

like ken said the 288 gto was a turbo...
and before the 288 gt0...the 208 gtb/gts turbo, based on a 308 but with a 2.0 liters turbocharged V8.

you could also find a gtb/gts turbo based on the 328 with 2.0 L v8 turbo intercooled...

 

If you look at the dimensions in height, length and width:
-550/ 575 are bigger cars than the Testarossa and 512.
-360/F430 are bigger than the 355, 348.
-612 is bigger than the 456
-Enzo bigger than the F50, F40.

I think they will keep getting bigger or maybe its going to stabilize. We'll see.

A new Dino is a great idea!

 

You mean something like this:

V6 470hp

http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=8992

 

Now that's what I call a "baby Enzo" ....
I just need to go on a diet so I'll fit in there.
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I agree something similar to Dino's concept 6 cylinders compact 350bhp would be in the same price bracket as 993 and that would be very beneficial in terms of profit and market for Ferrari.

 

doesn't the elise's total weight double as soon as someone sits in it?

 

I'm game for an Elise-like Ferrari!

But then, we have that already... Its called the Elise!!

 

Apologies to all the 288GTOs for my oversight.

But Ferrari will never make another Dino, in terms of size and HP. That market is entirely different today than it was 30 years ago. Today, Lancia, Fiat or Alfa Romeo could make that car- a direct competitor to the Boxster, the Elise, and whatever else is sold for less than $70K.
I'm sure Montezemolo recognizes the potential and the appeal of an Italian Elise-like or Boxster-like car. Expect to see it in the coming years. I wager it will be under the Alfa badge.


Forza,


Cavllini

 

Not really possible because dealerships would have to close its doors. Ferrari dealers don't make that much money off of sales because of their low volume. They make most of their money in the service department (like most other dealerships,too).

I agree that the cars are getting too big. They should make the cars small, but the styling is also getting a little to Japanese for my tastes.

The engines are still awesome. More efficient and powerful than before and they aren't that much bigger than the previous engines. I really don't want Ferraris to get s/c V6s because it won't ever sound the same as a rumbling V12 or a screaming high revving n/a V8.

I hope that Ferrari won't only offer SMG on any of their cars ever. A lot of people like to be involved with the car more than just flicking paddles. This is similar to the new M5 and how E39 M5 owners aren't really planning to buy the E60 since they will only offer SMG (there's rumor that the 6MT will be offered to US market only later on).

 

I'm saying that Ferrari dealers cannot stay in business by selling just new Ferraris (they're only allocated about 35 a year each). They do make some money in used sales, but the service department must raise their prices to cover their overhead costs, not really to make profit, just to breakeven most times. If the owners of the dealership wanted to make large sums of money, they'd buy a Ford dealership and sell thousands of cars a year and make tons off of service.

If you wanted low prices at the dealership for service (or not as much service needed), the dealers would probably lose money every year and have to close its doors. When more and more dealers will close, you will have to drive hundreds, maybe a thousand miles just to get your car serviced by some Ferrari-only diagonostics machine.