Gasly out, Albon in

I feel bad for RIC, was always rooting for him, but this Renault decision was...unfortunate.
Hopefully he can revert it, but realistically I don't think he will...

 

Could be worse..... he could have gone to Williams

 

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Red bull likely knew renault were going downhill, hence why they dumped them as an engine supplier. DR should have considered that...but prob just believed his own hype that he could win with anything.

But I get why he wanted to leave. It sucks when you’re forced to take a back seat to an up and comer....it happens to us all sooner or later. Sometimes we’re forced into career setbacks. And/but Renault wrote a big cheque

 

RBR had quite enough of Abiteboul and his smarmy approach to their relationship. I lost count of the times I though Horner was going to backhand him.

 

I think Horner is a sleaze too

 

Red Bull's idea of partnership is that they can dictate and dominate their associate.
Don't forget that Red Bull and Renault shared 8 titles during the Vettel era
But when the hybrid formula came along Renault became the whipping boy and was accused of all the failures.
In fact, Renault lost all control of their power units once they reached Red Bull that operated them often against instructions.
Red Bull tinkered with components, mixed them up, didn't respect replacement schedules, etc ...
Renault was also blamed of failures cause by installation errors in the chassis, that were completely out of their control.
The joke was that any success was credited to Red Bull, and any failure blamed on Renault.

 

Redbull were as much to blame for their own mess with Renault. A good summary above. Redbull were almost without an engine. Horner and H-nut are a sad pair.

 

Horner took a B team and made it successful . . . all it took is boatloads of $$$$ and Adrian Newey.

 

Good for him. He is not perfect either lol. As the arrogant team face he is no diplomat and wanted it both ways with Renault. When they did win with Renault he was quiet as a mouse. Their are 2 sides to all divorce.

Good at Redbull does not equate good at other teams

 

Spot on, very incorrect way of acting. A company's manners and ethics reflects its owner's and this does not give a good impression of Matechitz, and his lieutenants, Marko and Horner...

 

You and a few others here are picking nits. I greatly admire Red Bull for taking a gamble with Honda and doing quite well, unlike a certain other team.

 

Maybe both Red Bull and McLaren have learnt from experience not to put so much pressure on their engine partners.
Both seem to progress since they switch suppliers, although Red Bull is way ahead.

 

Renault insiders tell a different story. Horner and Co permanently whining, etc ...

Red Bull won 12 GPs during the association, but gave no credit to Renault for it, instead they used the media to constantly dicredit it. .

Not a good way to keep a partnership going.

 

Surely you mean a lot more than 12 wins William, a typo?

Bas I am no Renault fan and you would not see me dead owning one BUT fair is fair Red Bull never were with them.

 

Actually, it was the other way around !!

Marko and Horner couldn' t wait for a GP to be finished to go to the press room and start lambasting Renault at the first opportunity !

Then, one year Red Bull pretended they had dumped Renault and found a new supplier, only to find out Mercedes wasn't having it.

Red Bull wasv stuck with no engine, and Renault was convinced by the FIA to renew supply.

I wish the story was told as it was, and not embelished in Red Bull's favour.

 

12 wins during the hybrid era.

 

This. Many here were happy to see Redbull with no motor potentially and leave. Inputs were- not a real team not a manufacturer etc etc LoL. Now they are super, Horner is super, Honda is so super lol. Really???

 

Yes, I wished at the time that Renault would drop them for good.
That would have erased the smile on their faces and left them stranded.

 

A poor way to treat people including those who work for Red Bull and would have no job if Renault does NOT POWER the car eh?

 

+1

Ofcourse none of the mess would have happened in the first place had Mercedes agreed to supply Red Bull with PU's