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348 Gearbox Fell Off

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  1. JM280z

    JM280z Formula Junior

    Aug 22, 2020
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    Gearbox mounts came undone. Still shifting smooth! But clutch was a bit clunky when engaging. The 4 bolts under the air box are missing.

    Anyone know the length, width, pitch, etc of those bolts?

    They’re #52 in this diagram

    1991 348 GTS 2.7

    https://www.scuderiacarparts.com/part-finder/ferrari/348/oe/3/5/187?h=2754


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  2. JM280z

    JM280z Formula Junior

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    All 4 bolts are missing and it was hanging off being held on by the subframe brace and engine mount studs*


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  3. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I might know Thursday when a 348 shows up at my garage for some work. I'll pull one out and measure it.
     
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  4. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Don't drive this way or you bend stuff.
     
  5. JM280z

    JM280z Formula Junior

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    Yea, I won’t drive it. However, I probably have quite a bit already ;(

    It’s the gearbox rebuilt by Ernie on this forum; he’s got a big thread on the process. Let’s hope all the nice new parts held up.


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  6. radlu

    radlu Formula Junior

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    Strong work guys. Thumbs up.
     
  7. JM280z

    JM280z Formula Junior

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    M10 1.25 40mm with a washer and lock washer worked. I got grade 10.9. Used loctite too!!

    60F day in December. Went to Ace and bought many options! Lol


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  8. JM280z

    JM280z Formula Junior

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    30mm length would have been better. FYI


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  9. yelcab

    yelcab F1 World Champ
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    Call Ernie and say you bum Stooge. You did not torque it.
     
  10. Ferrarium

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    They are screwed down from the top not the bottom. They won't fall out, if they are missing they wear not put back most likely. Sounds like an easy fix!
     
  11. JM280z

    JM280z Formula Junior

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    Definitely handling more predictable now! There was a washer on-top of the gear box. I bet they weren’t torqued and once the mount came loose, the mount/gearbox fell down and vibrations/bounces popped the bolts up.


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  12. JM280z

    JM280z Formula Junior

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    I used JB Weld on the threads to ensure they don’t come loose. I also guided the threads with tap/dye set since the bolts were going in a bit firm prior.


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  13. Ferrarium

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    Try blue thread lock next time instead of JB weld.
     
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  14. 32 Ford

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    JB weld? That should be "interesting" trying to remove those bolts later on.
     
  15. A348W

    A348W Formula 3

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    Absolutely. There are different grades, do check before you buy.
     
  16. JM280z

    JM280z Formula Junior

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    I’m just joking about the JB. I used washer, lock washer, and orange permatex (removable/semi-permanent). I like the orange permatex for this application. I use blue loctite on most other stuff. On my Datsun I use something on most every thread as that thing vibrates itself to death, and prevents corrosion on threads.

    I torqued to 40ft/lbs.


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