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  1. steve3red

    steve3red Rookie

    May 30, 2012
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    Hello, new to forum. Looking at 67 red 5sp with 44k original. Rockers replaced w new paint 3 yrs ago. No pics of the repair. Maintenence records a bit scetchy. Has incorrect Borrani wires seen on Ferrari 330. Owner asking $102,500 usd. Seems high to me and to Hagerty insurance. Does this price seem appropriate to members of this forum? It's difficult to get hard numbers as the valuation tools seem out of step with market pricing. Thx in advance for your time. Steve.
     
  2. vaholtorf

    vaholtorf Formula 3
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    I think $100K should get you an almost perfect Ghibli. More only for a 4.9, special options, etc. Call Ivan, at thecarnut.com as he is the most in tune with pricing. He is on here a lot too, so maybe he can chine in. Proper wheels/tires will set you back almost 10K also.
     
  3. licodix

    licodix Formula Junior

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    We had this in the last three months or so over and over: restored and correct Ghiblis are way north of 100k. IF you find any...
    See the recent discussions here on the forum
     
  4. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    Well, I think your market view reg. value is...outdated! Perfect cars are clearly north of $$100k.
     
  5. thecarnut

    thecarnut F1 Rookie
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    I agree.

    As we saw with the recent RM auction, a good non-power steering 4.7 liter Ghibli can bring $150K+ USD. I would personally get a later car with the single spark plug holes and power steering. Either 4.7 or 4.9 engine is fine.

    Make sure all the bit and pieces are correct as fixing past mistakes is a pain.

    I currently have a 1972 Ghibli SS available, feel free to contact me at [email protected].

    Ivan
     
  6. ghibliman

    ghibliman Formula Junior

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    I'll take two
     
  7. steve3red

    steve3red Rookie

    May 30, 2012
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    Thanks to all who responded. Ivan, I know the car in Monaco and yes, it did sell for 105,000 Euros but then it had a full restoration in Italy to the tune of 70,000 Euros. That particular car was probably worth that amount given you are unlikely to have major problems over the next few years. For anyone who has restored a car, the cost of parts alone are greater than the resultant increase in value so the smart buyer gets the recently restored vehicle. Having said that, I'm not always the smartest buyer but with an unrestored car, I would expect to pay considerably less. It seems to me that 100k+ for an unrestored number 3 car when compared to recent sales over the last 12 months is rather high. My research would suggest about $90,000 usd for this car. You could argue that 10k is not a large number if you're in the market for a Ghibli but my philosophy is that I don't mind paying market value but anything above that generates some angst (you know, that feeling of wanting to run into the woods screaming;)). So, bottom line, is the car's price appropriate for the condition or is it overpriced by 10k?

    Steve
     
  8. thecarnut

    thecarnut F1 Rookie
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    Steve,

    I do not know this 67 Ghibli therefore I am the last person to comment on the price. Perhaps you are correct that it is overpriced at $102,500. I like the way the very early Ghiblis look but I dislike the way they drive. I would pay a premium for a later car with power steering. Please no hate mail from early Ghibli owners :)

    Also I have seen many cars with piles of receipts that I did not think were that true to the original. They looked nice but not correct. I would rather have a good honest Ghibli that has been maintained but not completely redone.

    Just my 2 cents

    Ivan
     
  9. steve3red

    steve3red Rookie

    May 30, 2012
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    Ivan, thanks for all your input. You are clearly one of the experts! Who sits at the top of your rolodex for a PPI for a Ghibli in the Las Angelas area please? Steve.
     
  10. italiancars

    italiancars F1 Rookie

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    Ghibli values began to climb with the sale of the of SS Spyder #1259 at Gooding in AZ in Jan. 2012 for 880k. They have also been helped by the fact that Ferrari Daytonas which had been flat for a couple of years have been rising bring the Ghibli up with them.

    However, at the same time where Lamborghini GT cars had been hot, they have not gone flat.
     
  11. russarch

    russarch Rookie

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    Ivan, what do you know about this car? Gooding sold this at their Scottsdale auction this year. Did Elvis own a Ghibli because this seems off the charts?

    1971
    Maserati
    Ghibli 4.9 SS Spyder
    AM 115/S.49 1259
    $880,000
    Sold
     
  12. lussoman

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    Steve,

    I had an offer on the car that you are looking at, I sent you a PM.

    Chris
     
  13. 3500 GT

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    Actually, Ghibli values as with most Maserati GT cars, have been climbing for years. And rightly so.
     
  14. 1Hurthutoy15

    1Hurthutoy15 Karting

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    I have a Ghibli ss coupe for sale.5sp,power steering,mag wheels,It needs total restoration.Asking $39k obo.it's currently apart/ basket case.99% complete,missing front windshield and windshield trim but I have qport 1 trim that can be retrofitted.
    It has rust in the rockers and floors.Ca titled and registered in my name. Looking for someone who has too much time on their hands.

    Jacques
    714-791-3038
     
  15. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    The car was much discussed earlier. Its a very rare Ghibli-Spyder 4.9 with EU-specs. and in outstanding condition. So the fetched price was well deserved.

    I only know one Spyder 4.9 (also EU-specs.) that is of the same quality.
     
  16. thecarnut

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    +1 .... LOL

    Ivan
     
  17. steve3red

    steve3red Rookie

    May 30, 2012
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    Thanks for the offer Jacques but I've already tried one full restoration with a basket case on an MGB many years ago. It's still sitting in my shop, sans engine, waiting for my now reluctant soul to dust it off and start again. I think we all get in over our heads once and swear we will never do it again. Then again, there are those of us on our third and fourth wives.....
     
  18. steve3red

    steve3red Rookie

    May 30, 2012
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    Many thanks to Ivan for his expertise on this vehicle. Had a conversation with him today and decided to buy the 1972 SS in black! Love the colour and its a driver, not a trailer queen. The dual exhausts should make-up for the rapidly thinning hair on my head!

    Thanks for all the good info on the site. I will likely be pulling on you guys for information/experience in the future and hopefully be able to return the favour in years to come.

    Steve
     
  19. 3500 GT

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    Wise move on a wonderful car!

    Post more info/data/etc., when you can.

    Ciao and best!

    ~Trev
     
  20. red27

    red27 Formula Junior

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    Congratulations Steve. I think you have bought well. The pictures on Ivan's site looked very nice and I'm sure you will enjoy the car greatly. By the way, thinning hair or no, EVERYONE should have quad tailpipes IMHO!!

    Regards. Mark
     
  21. William Abraham

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    Congrats --- Wonderful car and you bought from the right person! I would love to get one. Maybe if I sell my 3 Quattroportes I could get one Ghibli (plus cash of course). Question which Maserati can I take my wife and daughter in and still pick up my parents at the airport? So the answer is to sell 2 and use more cash! Anyway, let us see some pictures.
     
  22. staatsof

    staatsof Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    Just how DOES one embark upon a restoration project for a wife?

    I'm not sure a basket case is the best choice in that situation even if the entrance fee is low ... With wives it's exit fee you have to worry about.

    Always get the best original condition example you can afford ...

    Any custom modifications are to be eschewed ...

    No doubt Walter will insist upon the Euro spec version and object to those with the big American rubber bumpers ...
     
  23. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    .....yesssssssss! .:)
     
  24. italiancars

    italiancars F1 Rookie

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    Congrats on your purchase. I own the Ghibli SS # 2110, the car built just before your new car #2112. What part of the country will the car take up residency?
     
  25. steve3red

    steve3red Rookie

    May 30, 2012
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    Well boys, I'm sorry to disappoint but in fact the car will be brought up to Canada to live the colder months in a heated shop and to be enjoyed in the summer season. I live near Calgary, Alberta but will be moving in 2 years likely (as per my wife) back to Vancouver, B.C. My wife and I have an "open marriage"; she gets to make all the major decisions and I get to buy cars!

    Steve
     

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