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  1. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Ouch! But +1 :)

    I agree - I've never much liked the guy for some reason. Wasn't he involved with Tom Walkinshaw (another crook IMO) back in the day? Another member of the "seedy underside" of the sport - He's been around a *long* time in many roles - Team principal, driver manager, marketing guy, etc.

    Yeah, I guess they're pissed, but they're often pissed that the sun rises in the East too. I don't really see what top-secret, relevant information he could be taking with him at this stage - Some outline specs of the '13 motors?

    In fact, didn't he leave *before* they moved the goalposts from I4's to V6's?..... I'd LOL if he's got all the data for the 4's.....

    Guys move teams all the time - OK, I know this is a little different as he's got access to all the teams information rather than just the one, but I still think it's a storm in a teacup and not a reflection of JT's integrity or lack thereof.....

    As to whether PURE will get an engine on track, I'll give 'em a chance but suspect it'll never happen for reasons that will remain blurry and obscure - Pollock and a few others will pocket a bunch of investor money and nothing will happen is my guess.

    Florian - If you're looking for a job I'd strongly suggest a *real* engine company! ;)

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  2. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    As far as I know the move was made Aug1. There are indications that he had done a deal with PURE well before that which may or may not have been known about by JT.
    No matter what actual harm is done by this it seems that Todt has abandoned even the fig leaf of transparency that we were promised.
    Its not enough for those in authority to do no harm they must also be seen to be doing honest bidding. Caesar's wife and all that.
    David
     
  3. Far Out

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    Lol :D No worries, I'll be occupied here for quite a while ;) It's just that every alarm bell starts to ring when you can't even find out where a company actually is ... even USF1 was better than that!
     
  4. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I hear you, and certainly understand where you're coming from. Personally, I'm not yet ready to tar JT with being "corrupt" or having no clothes - He (and by extension, the FIA) "wished them well" and I think machining metal for the new motors is still so far off JT didn't see any conflict of interest.

    FWIW, Autosport announced that he was going to PURE on July 28th, followed by howls from the teams on the 29th (!) followed by Pollock saying he's "baffled" by the switch to V6's on August 3rd..... I reckon PURE may be in possession of a bunch of useless I4 data.....
     
  5. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +1

    They're supposedly based in Switzerland. I was going to make the USF1 comparison above - Pollock may well live on the same grassy knoll as Pee-Wee......

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  6. kraftwerk

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    If that's the case all well and good, he still maybe saw a way to make a fast buck, and Todt knew that.?
     
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  8. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    I think JT's a bit savvier than that.

    Again it's not so much the harm done but the thoughtless distain for even the semblance of fairness.
     
  9. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    However he has along way to go to sink to the levels of Mosley, and believe me in my book that is low..;)
     
  10. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    There's still pleanty of time.
     
  11. Far Out

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    #36 Far Out, Sep 13, 2011
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    :eek:

    1996 just called... they want their website back! :eek:


    Edit: Their adress is
    Route des Hotels 24
    1884 Villars sur Ollon
    Switzerland

    Look at the place in Google Maps... they're based in a hotel?!
     
  12. NeuroBeaker

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    Maybe they really like the room service. :D

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  13. VIZSLA

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    Who doesn't like Room Service?
     
  14. NeuroBeaker

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    The recipient of the bill! ;)

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  15. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Groucho glasses and a very early exit avoid such nuisances.
    :D
     
  16. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    LOL
    Aha so thats how you appear to afford these nice rooms...;)
     
  17. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    That and my boyish charm ;)
     

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