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Giving up cycling for a long while :(

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  1. TestShoot

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    Rob, Sherpa, feel free to chime in.

    Cliff notes:
    1) Avid cyclist, 50-75 miles a day, walk 3 miles a night
    2) suspicious scab on ear comes and goes for 2 years
    3) prior wreck had diet fouled up
    4) crushed eustacian tube, hearing loss, ear infection, loss of balance result
    5) viteligo like father before his skin cancer treatment removing huge part of lip
    6) mom gets panicky
    7) doc says she needs to cut off part of ear, dermabrasion on forehead
    8) immune system torqued
    9) beans and frank in danger
    10) change lifestyle/diet STAT!

    I figured the long form would bore y'all
     
  2. sherpa23

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    Uh oh. This is not a great thing. I am sorry to hear about this. However, I don't think that all is lost. Other than the crushed eustacian tube (how did that happen?), everything else is fixable. FWIW, I may need the long form.

    Anyways, 50-75 miles a day is a lot but not that much. It is well within the normal range of recovery fore a gifted athlete. The question becomes whether or not you are allowing yourself sufficient recovery or whether it is more than your body can handle. SIDE NOTE: everyone has an idea that if they can train all the time, they could be World Champion, TdF Champion, etc. but that is pure myth. The amount that you can train is limited by what your body can absorb. If your body can't absorb all the training that you are doing, the excess training only tears your body down beyond what it can recover. So now you're tearing your body down cumulatively and that has long term effects if not done properly. I strongly suspect that you are suffering from insufficient recovery.

    As to your specific problems:
    3) wreck and diet: I am not sure I understand this so give me the full explanation.

    5) viteligo: I am not sure what causes it (loss of pigmentation in skin) but it may have to do with chronic lack of recovery. USe lots of sunscreen. LOTS.

    6) Tell your mum that you're taking care of yourself and you don't want to die before you at least get to shag Hilary Duff, and she's still several years from being legal.

    7) Well, I'm not doc but this goes back to sufficient recovery and proper hydration. If she wants to do a little cutting, I guess that's up to you.

    8) immune system: Recovery, recovery, recovery. This will help your immune system tremenedously.

    9) Beans and Frank: Change your bike saddle and make sure that it is level as measured by a straight edge from end to end, not in the middle. I never had an issue with this during my whole cycling career. I would have days (after really hard track races on steep tracks) where my sit bones (pelvic bone) were really sore and I'd have a hard time sitting on a bike but I never had any penile issues. And judging by the fact that my wife got pregnant within 1 millesecond of trying, I think that my swimmers are probably in good shape, too. I really think that good bike position and posture, as well as good choices in saddles had a lot to do with this.

    All in all, I think that you can still ride but you need to take the recovery portion seriously. That's where you get fit anyways. People think that training gets you strong but in fact the training makes you weak. The recovery from the training iswhat makes you strong. See if any of this helps.

    And stop walking 3 miles every night. That's terrible.
     
  3. TestShoot

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    Well my wreck broke 2 wisdom teeth to a point where I went a month and a half finding a doc that could work on them the breaks were so bad. I had to change to different foods that were softer (no steaks in almost 6 months now!) I also have had a portion of protein shakes in my diet spaced out through the day for the last 2 years. That as I am told is not good. My diet has been an elevated protein diet to aid recovery, and I have been taking breaks, just doing spinning for half hour or so, sometimes I go 3 days without riding.

    I had to get that bit of skin on the ear removed, three years of scabbing at random in the exact same spot, then a big black spot lip my father had on his lip before they cut that off (years on the police boat did that to him). I go the same spot on my forehead amidts some viteligo.

    Cycling is like showering to me, I have to do it everyday, Once a week I try to do 100miles, once every 3 months I do 200 in a day. You understand hwo it can be such a part of your life. ride to live, live to ride. It can be all consuming.

    Hydration was never an issue for me, I would get random nosebleeds as an indication of dehydration, but for the most part, I always had a gatorade and full water bottle onhand every hour or two.

    As for the walk, I go through blocks of a few days of insomnia, use of steroids as a kid messed my system up, so some nights, I go for a long walk, usually passing by Newport Autosport around 2-3am to keep the riff-raff away ;)

    I was working on the house up in La Canada, while swinging a pick axe, it hit a rock and knocked my foot out from under me, the dirt gave way, and on a rare occasion, I fell, bumping my ear on the top of a fence post I was putting in. Ear went totally silent right then and there.

    I was about to get a puppy/rescue dog from a shelter too so I could go trail running with it as well, but that does not look too promising.
     
  4. sherpa23

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    Okay, that clears up my questions. Here's a possible solution: try going for 6 weeks with nothing longer than 1.5 hours and don't augment your riding with something stupid like 5 mile walks/trail runs/whatever. Let your body relax for a month and a half and see what happens. Take a multi vitamin every day and go to bed early, even if you can't sleep. Just read books until you doze off. Don't try and walk it off.
     
  5. TestShoot

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    I am a workaholic, more free time for me gets used up quickly. I was working at a photolab on weekends while making near 250k from my 9-5 gig because I can't be idle, just can't.

    I tried reading, craft projects (I make a hell of a spice rack), even rocking my girlfriend's world until she was not getting any sleep either. I have actually not ridden in a week and a half now, couch muscles are developing nicely. Doing the vitamins thing already. I am thinking of rebuilding my motor for kicks to keep me indoors and occupied.

    I had a failure of 2 hard drives this week, and lost my entire 15gbs of mp3s. So I have been re-ripping and searching, lost all of my local copies of the fcar videos, luckily they are on the server.

    I am bouncing off the walls like a dachsund on crack. Maybe I'll go to NY next week for my birthday and then to Paris until October to get myself out of the game for a bit. Perhaps I'll take up another language or two.
     
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  7. TestShoot

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    I know them well, all the docs are friends of my mother. I was there and sat in when they did Penn Gilette's implant

    edit: my mom wanted me to be a doc, so I blew a few years of my life for nothing lol
     
  8. Scotty

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    If you have specific questions about your vitiligo, your ear, etc.--post them. I am a Dermatologist and a Mohs surgeon (specialty skin cancer surgery). I would be happy to provide advice about sunscreens (it is more complicated than you think), natural/dietary interventions that may decrease your risk of skin cancer, etc. I am an avid cyclist (though my miles are not close to yours) and I have had a personal experience--I had an early melanoma removed from the inner corner of my eye (can you say unlimited sunglass budget). Make sure you PM me as well--I don't check every forum all that often.
     
  9. TestShoot

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    Will do Scotty.
     

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