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Going to FCA Nat'l Meet at Road America...Questions about the track.

Discussion in 'Tracking & Driver Education' started by marcmc8867, May 26, 2009.

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  1. marcmc8867

    marcmc8867 Formula 3

    Jul 27, 2004
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    I'll be at the FCA National Meet in 7/29-8/2 and will be doing the track event Saturday/Sunday...making the long road trip in my 360 Spider F1.

    My question: Is Road America what you would describe as a track that is tough on brake components?? I took a look at the track map and came to no real conclusion since I couldn't see the elevation changes, etc. I know there are some long straights but it also has quite a few corners that appear to require brake use.

    I'll have fresh OEM pads (and OE Michelin Pilot Sports) which I've found to be better on track than my preferred street pad, the Porterfield R4S. These have been great track pads everywhere except the short South Course at VIR which has little opportunity for cooling between corners...and results in absolute fade in half a session unless I baby the brakes. They've been fine at "brake-intense" tracks like Watkins Glen except in longer sessions and great at Mosport, full course at VIR, etc.

    I have past competition experience and like to brake deep so feedback from experienced track guys would probably be more valuable than casual track people.

    Thanks in advance!

    Marc
     
  2. ProCoach

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    Marc, I put Road America in the same category at the Glen and full course VIR in terms of braking brutality.

    The two hardest spots on brakes are the downhill (after a long run and fast exit from T3) Turn 5 and Canada Corner (Turn 12), another "haulin' it down" zone after going fast out of the Carousel and negotiating the Kink. That said, the subsequent T6-Carousel run is a reasonable cooling off zone (except for T8) and the area following Canada allows for some brake cooling. Turn 13 (the former bridge, it's gone now, replaced by a tunnel) is one of the most awesome corners around, think South Bend or T10 at the Glen!

    You'll get a lot of opinions, but since you're driving to the event (plan on 18-20 hours), I'd run the OEM pads and take a spare set rather than run the Porterfields.

    This is for fun, remember? :D
     
  3. ProCoach

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    #3 ProCoach, May 27, 2009
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    If you have a chance, look up Duck Waddle (no lie, that's his name) at the track. He's semi-retired from Skippy but still hangs around. If he's there, he'll give you the best advice about getting around that track, period. I won my first race there after riding with him when he was placing the cones... Give him and his wife my best.

    If you want, we can make a date for you to come by and we'll do some laps in the simulator to get the "muscle memory" going. ;)
     
  4. redcar1

    redcar1 Formula Junior

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    If you like thrilling threshold braking you'll love T5 and Canada. There are several other hard braking spots. This track is VERY fast and will be hard on brakes, but there are nice long straights between very harsh brake zones. It is a fantastic track. It is shocking how narrow the track is, especially at speed.

    Here's a GT3 cup going 2:15.6

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNzQgAXsr_o
     
  5. ProCoach

    ProCoach F1 Veteran
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    Cory Friedman, Autometrics, great Porsche shop in SC and a great kid. His dad and I taught schools together for a long time.

    This ain't no standard GT3 cup car. This is the Grand Am GT class winning car and driver, Daytona 24 Hours, 2005.
     

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