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Discussion in '348/355' started by FDT, Feb 11, 2011.

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  1. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    It is about total improvement, and prevention....not just trying to fix a single bad connection. As the problem has been described, even if you fix the one problem...it does nothing to prevent the next failure/trouble point. This kit can be considered part of a maintenance program. Not trying to convince you Chris, just further explain for the "lurkers" out there. This kit may not be for everyone, and that is fine.
     
  2. cf355

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    Some people are marketing their products hear on F-Chat and I have no problem with that however you have to keep that in mind when reading about their claims.

    I have not had any problem solving electrical issues on the F car using proper diagnostics and repair techniques.
    If I see the need for a gold connector kit....I will source one out....rubber boots rotted...I will replace them....but so far (and my car is 16 years old) it runs like the day it was built.
    What can I say.....i'm not sold on the product.
     
  3. cf355

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    #28 cf355, Feb 11, 2011
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    I hear you.
    As a 'maintenance program'...it may work for some.
     
  4. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes but the diagnosis is the Ferrari wiring system with the low cycle silverpins IS the problem. The solution is to change OVER 100 of them. Yes there is a method to diagnosis and it has already been done. You are coming years late to the party. No put down intended. I also have worked on NSX's and they are a different animal from ferraris electronically and they have their own problems.

    Good Luck
     
  5. GerryD

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    There are many connectors that can be replaced while the engine is in the car but some are very hard to get to. I did most of mine with the engine in and later on when the service came up, I did the rest and believe me it was very easy with the engine out. I did mine in Aug 09 and am now wondering if Dave has made any updates for the 2.7 since then. As for Chris....well he is right in believing what he has experienced but Chris I can tell you that my car has gained power and smoothness from the connectors being changed and if you want to experience it, we will meet at Daytona one day later this year and you can drive my car. At that time you will purchase the kit.....I guarantee it and Ill help you change the pins. Deal?
     
  6. 3forty8

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    Yes, no problem to do it with engine in on a 348. 355 (OP's car) should be similar, ultimately it is easier to do it as part of a major service with the engine out.

    All this other talk about dialectric grease, stabilant, etc - misses the freaking point. The OEM connectors are pure garbage, rated for 5 connects/disconnects. The connectors spread over time and wreak havoc on the electrical signals going to the ECU, causing all manor of electrical headaches and bullsh!t.

    Dave's (SRI) connectors are rated for 100+ connects/diconnects and are gold plated to ensure the proper signal reaches the ECU. Yeah, I kown I'm shouting, but:

    THIS IS THE SINGLE BEST UPGRADE I HAVE EVER DONE TO MY CAR. IT HAS NEVER RUN BETTER. PERIOD. Install Dave's kit and enjoy your car how it was meant to perform.

    Or, just read this from last year for specific benefits and how a skeptic turned into an evangelist: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=236795
     
  7. davehelms

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    #32 davehelms, Feb 12, 2011
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    *I am not, I just answer questions, to imply such is not only misleading, but wrong. The folks speaking about the kit are the ones that have realized the benefits, not those that are producing or marketing it. They benefit in no way from sales of this product line but have dealt with the frustration of the same problems everyone else has. They are simply speaking of the results they experienced and it was not by my request.

    *I agree with you on this point. I believe in understanding a problem fully prior to taking action and spending money on parts. One must Fully understand the problem at hand and in this case it requires a microscope just to start the process. "The beginning of knowledge is the discovery of something we do not understand." Frank Herbert No truer words were ever written and for me.... this was no exception. Five years later its a different matter and it doesnt involve a 'lone' component.

    *Logical, satisfying and Damned Expensive when paying to have it done or throwing parts based on assumptions. When there is a fundamental flaw in the system design you will be chasing ghosts for a long time prior to finding "A" problem. Forty years in this market says I know of what I speak on that point.

    * "To each his own" Absolutely, on that we completely agree. For all the years of being fed snake oil I expect no one to blindly believe in anything in this industry, to do so would be naive. I am reminded of that point daily when I receive parts to repair these cars! I just happened to get angry enough about that point to do something foolish like designing exceptional quality parts/systems. Make no mistake, there were far smarter people involved in all of these projects than myself. When ego doesn't get in the way and a 'team' of experts is formed, there is Nothing unsolvable if there is a great enough want.

    I have no want to argue a point with anyone BUT... I have a good many years of research into this, the Aero Space industry standards and my findings happen to agree. Call it dumb luck, Im OK with that. Usually when any given point is argued very hard there is an indentifiable justification.... on both sides of the equation......
     
  8. Mr.Chairman

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    #33 Mr.Chairman, Feb 12, 2011
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    cf355 - How often do you drive your car? How many miles a year? Just curious..

    R
     
  9. chas-3

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    #34 chas-3, Feb 12, 2011
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    And we were talking about grease on the electrical connectors, not installing the boots. But thanks for that.
     
  10. fatbillybob

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    I think you mis-spoke. grease to lube the boots to slide on the wire bundle. No grease on connectors, no grease on pins.
     
  11. chas-3

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    Seriously!? Go reread the thread. I was giving a +1 to keeping grease away from electrical connectors. Didn't say anything about boots. Geez I'm done with this nonsense.
     
  12. fatbillybob

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    Sorry to ruffle your feathers. I guess I didn't understand your first incomplete sentence. But I understand you now with this follow-up post.
     
  13. davehelms

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    Chas, you and FBB are in complete agreement and rightly so. A misunderstanding based on multiple ways a statement was made when quoting someone else.

    I had ONE early test kit installed... in Canada.... where the installing mechanic decided I was wrong in my method and chose to fill all of the re-pined plugs with dielectric grease during the install. The results were predictable and required the job be done a second time.

    Grease is not a conductor, its an insulator. Its only purpose is to exclude moisture and works fairly well on the tail lights of a boat trailer where full voltage, high current and non sensitive data is being transmitted... read, brake lights. That happens to not be the case with the signals we are dealing with in this equation, they are low voltage, sensitive data transmissions and require a far better connection than the cars had when they were new.... The reason why improvements are consistently being observed in cars that have never displayed any issues or problems.

    We are only discussing the obvious changes made with my kit. What is not being discussed would fill volumes.
     
  14. chas-3

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    Well stated Dave, and yes, no hard feelings toward FBB. Misunderstandings on forums happen all the time. Weather is warming up so hopefully the garage driveway clears out soon and the 348 will be back out on the road.
     
  15. captglen

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    I have the kit on my 348 spider and car continues to perform flawlessly.
    Let's not forget about Dave's Hose kits as well
    Thanks again Dave !!
     
  16. AceMaster

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