I believe there is a difference in code between CAMPAGNOLO vs OZ... I post a CAMPAGNOLO and you show an OZ rim, why not consiering both paints are original... Let's come back to fundamental source : JM Borel's Countach book, page 80 the car pic show CAMPAGNOLO and for a period pic it demonstrates a similar paint to RAL1036 Perlgold Met. while the one used on OZ seems more clear as you mentionned Image Unavailable, Please Login
Guys, I find this all very interesting. I have 2 sets, 10 wheels, to be painted gold. I may ask my painter if it is possible to paint my Jarama set with less clear and what would be done standard on my spare Urraco set. I agree with a couple of others that the early gold had less metallic and, if any, less clear. BTW, those prototype Urraco wheels that are on the car will finally be repainted in the correct silver.
Peter, do we know if the factory used a clear or was it possibly a single stage enamel? There was no clear on the Miura style wheels in silver on my car. There was also no clear on my Hayashi Racing rims I restored last year. That gold paint was quite bright, thin and held up surprisingly well for 36 years too. Powdercoating was a PITA but looks nice and very different. I had the same reaction Joe did to those recently painted wheels. If the owner likes them it's no big deal in my book unless the goal is to always maintain and drive a museum piece. If you like to drive and enjoy the cars regularly that's not very practical in some cases. What's practical about a Countach?
Bob, FWIW, I am convinced that in the period the factory did not use clear on the wheels in the production period. I also agree with you, if Elvis is happy with how the wheels turned out, that's all that matters. Just trying to be helpful!
Just to clarify: 1. The CAMPAGNOLO wheel on the black car which you posted has been refinished with clear. It is not in its original state in both hue or finish, and this is easily evident with the image you posted. 2. The OZ wheels I posted of the black LP500S are in response to Elvis' newly-refinished wheels. 2 separate responses, for 2 different wheels.
Looks like my wheels are getting re-done. The painter is not happy with the result as he finds the paint very hard to work with and there's a few drips and inconsistencies. So he wants to take another crack at it. He's is a real perfectionist. I am not a car-show guy or a collector, and I drive my countach frequently. Still I want to get these wheels as close to stock as possible (within reason considering it's not 2015 and paint technology has changed in the last 30 years). So I welcome any more tips and ideas. Seems like the color is dead on, but not the clear. I've seen stock gold wheels many times in many lighting situations, and these look about right.
This. Do not think they or anyone was using base/clear then. I think 2 stage paint on the 78 Countach was the latest great thing. Even the owners manual dedicated a good handful of pages to the paint on the car. I do not think any car manufacturer was using it until somewhere between 79 and 82 (or later for some). And, that probably would never have been a thought on wheel sin the 70's! But it's best to ask some old school body shops.
I picked up my wheels today but i was unable to take a picture outside in daylight. This is "perl gold" with a non gloss clear finish..... new tyres fitted all round as well... Only today did I notice that on the front wheels the holes are not completely round. They have a flat outer edge opposite the rim... Image Unavailable, Please Login
Holy crap! Those wheels look incredibly beautiful! Thank for sharing. We can see why we question. The rear looks slightly darker and more vintage. That flash shine on the front make it slightly lighter. Either way they came out seemingly as they should.
Yes I have been using the replicas full time and the Campys have been tucked away in their zip up bags so I never noticed that...
With the wheels on the ground, off the car, indoors in artificial light this is not the best way to judge the colour. You will not be surprised to know that all the wheels are the same! Yes the rears look darker but this is just a trick of the light and it shows how difficult it is to judge colours under different lighting conditions and angles, let alone when captured in an image. To my eyes, and to others who have seen them, the colour looks just right and the non gloss clear gives an authentic appearance. My thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread! For the record the colour is RAL1036 Pearl Gold Met with matt clear.
One obvious way to tell the difference. The other is that the repro wheels are smooth, whereas the original sand-cast items have a textured surface by comparison.
You can tell by the radius on the face surface on the five holes. Campys are tight and less rounded as it was machined off making the paint thin at that area. I suppose one can do that to a repo too.
Just had one set of Urraco wheels painted. And just like above, they had to be re-finished because of high gloss. Which gave it a terrible look plus it made the tiny metallic appear very prominent. This clear changed the entire look. I used RAL 9006 White Aluminum. I will take another photo when they are indoors......which will probably look different lol. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Hard to tell but this is a sample of Pearl Gold Met. I have 10 wheels out, being sprayed today. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Sorry only just seen this thread. I have a set of original Miura wheels in my office as a display piece in this colour, I had the repainted to historically correct Gold colour about 6 years ago. IIRC I got the paint code from Lambo UK
Thank you. Posting these to photos clearly shows how the same thing can be photographed seconds apart and look like different shades. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
