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  1. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    No wonder I did not know anything about it. Too early.
     
  2. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ
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    And not to mention the brilliant racing - yesterday’s St Mary’s event was probably the best racing I’ve seen in decades (makes current F1 look like a kindy event); I SOOOOO wanted the little Alfa GTA to get past the Galaxie!
    And the guys in the ERAs et al deserve medals for bravery and fitness!
     
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  3. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Six Time F1 World Champ
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    Nah, that David vs. Goliath thing is so Old Testament;) Actually the Galaxie 500 XL fastback has a special place in my heart. One of them….406 cubic inches, triple two-barrels, four speed ‘box….transported me to my first race in 1963.:)
     
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  4. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    I have to explain to many ypung men, what Arturo is doing there....

    No, not the hat!

    He's got his collar "Agnelli style" where a button down feature is present, but you are SO cool and so busy, you don't button them!
    God bless Piloti Merzario, always one of my favorites...

    For his cheerfull attitude, and of course..the hat!!!!
    :D :D :D
     
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  5. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    He worked very hard to get that GP car from it's owner, now passed away.
     
  6. jtremlett

    jtremlett F1 Rookie

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    He's great. But has anyone ever seen a picture of him in a racing car where it looks like he can actually see out?!!?
     
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  7. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Six Time F1 World Champ
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    Unfortunately neither the 246S (Hancock, retired while leading) ) nor the 1512 (Colasacco, retired while chasing Middlehurst in the Lotus 25 again) finished its race.
     
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  8. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ
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    And the 250LM DNS....
     
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  9. merstheman

    merstheman F1 Rookie

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    But my favorite little 250 SWBs were putting on quite a show on Saturday!
     
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  10. GBTR6

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  11. Aardy

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  12. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    As referred above, what is a 'toolroom' copy? Any different assembly method? Better than a replica?

    Perry[/QUOTE]
    Just a total replica.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  13. GBTR6

    GBTR6 Formula Junior

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    Just a total replica.

    Marcel Massini[/QUOTE]

    Thank you Marcel.

    Perry
     
  14. NunoRosso

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    May I ask which chassis? I know Mr. Ecclestone owns the 375 F1 #5, does he own another one?
     
  15. Timmmmmmmmmmy

    Timmmmmmmmmmy F1 Rookie

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    I recall plenty of media about BCE buying Ayrton Senna's Monaco F1 winning 1993 McLaren using a certain famous dealer/ agent but have seen nothing since then. AFAIK the other two surviving 340/375F1s are still with the van der Lof and Perfetti collections while the four 375 Indianapolis are quite a different beast.
     
  16. NunoRosso

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    Thank you. Perhaps I misunderstood BigTex's post but I was under impression B.E. bought another 375 F1 (considering he entered a 375 in this year's Goodwood).

    Regarding the MP4/8, AFAIK the former owner (Mr. H.) is alive and well enjoying is formidable cars.
     
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  17. Timmmmmmmmmmy

    Timmmmmmmmmmy F1 Rookie

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    I could well be wrong but there has been no information about any 375 Monoposto selling since the Louwman collection briefly offered their Indy back in 1999/2000. And that didn't sell. Colin Crabbes book details the state of the two 340/375F1s that came out of South America and at least one other that was then thought to be a Ferrari F1 but wasn't and they were poor to put it mildly. I remembered a fourth that is with BCE so here's what I know

    125/275/375F1 #125-C-02 was a Ferrari team 125F1 that was mainly driven by Villoresi. It is believed to be the car loaned to Tony Vandervall as the Thinwall Special #2. Ascari failed to start at Silverstone in 1950 and it returned to Maranello where it was fitted with a 375F1 engine as Thinwall Special #3. Reg Parnell raced the car widely across the UK (it did travel once, to the Italian GP) in 1951 winning at least twice. Gonzales raced the car at Goodwood in 1952 after the BRM V16 failed to proceed once again, and won. It is unclear what happened next but various sources say the car was broken up and/ or the chassis was stored. Tom Wheatcroft established the Donington Collection in the 1960s/70s and the chassis was built up once more. The closing of the collection in the early 2010s saw the Thinwall Special #3 sold to Bernie Ecclestone.

    375F1 #02 was supposedly the car driven by Froilan Gonzales to win the 1951 British GP (it was almost certainly a later 24 valve type from '51 and #02 should have been a 12 valve type from '50 but it was certainly sold to Rosier as the first Ferrari to win a WDC F1 race). It was sold to Louis Rosier after the move to 2 litre F2 cars for 1952/3 and Rosier converted to a central seat sportscar in 1953 when Formula Libre racing finally died. Rosier raced it through 1955 incl. the '55 Buenos Aires 1000km with Maurice Trintignant where they finished 7th. Ron Roycroft bought the car in 1955 and shipped it out to NZ where it was rebuilt with Indy 375 style coachwork by a local bodyshop. Roycroft raced the old girl through 1960 with occasional success before selling the engine to Ernie Nunn for a Aussie racing powerboat in 1960. The rest of the 375F1 was sold to Ferris de Joux for a Jaguar powered GTO replica built in the mid 1960s. Gavin Bain was just getting going and managed to buy the chassis and engine and began a very long term restoration. Bain eventually bought a 375MM (#0370AM) and with two Alfa Romeo collectors establishing their own restoration shop. The 375F1 was driven on the road in NZ using a tractor registration and remained with Bain until 1992 when it was sold to Giorgio Perfetti in Switzerland. #02 is believed to be the most original of the four surviving 375F1s

    125F1/166F2/ 375F1 #05 was a 2320mm 1949 125F1 (only two were built #GP1-49 or GP2-49). Raced by Sommer once in 1949, Ascari, Villoresi and Sommer in 1950, generally in F2 without supercharger. Later fitted with a 375F1 engine for Monza and Spain in 1950 but returned to 166F2 form on occasion. Believed to be the 166F2 #118 that was sold to Scuderia Marzotto in 1951. At some point #005 was sold to Chico Landi with a 375F1 engine. It would appear that this 375F1 was sold to Chico Landi in Brazil and if so he had two 375F1s. Eventually a Chevrolet engine was fitted and various conversions carried out. Colin Crabbe found both on his various expeditions and #005 was supposedly reasonably complete. Upon its return to Europe it was sold to Albert Obrist and restored. Finally it passed to Bernie Ecclestone in the mid 1990s.

    125F1/340F1 #0566/05 was another 2320mm 1949 125 F1 chassis, raced just once at Berne, 340F1 engine fitted for the Geneva F1 in mid '50 where Ascari finished 4th and possibly also run at the Penya Rhin F1 race. Unclear what use it had during '51, it might have been Taruffis race car, but in '52 it was sold to Chico Landi and supposedly renumbered #0566 (a number not in use until '55). Landi raced it widely in South America until circa 1955 when he shipped it back to Italy and had Scaglietti rebody it. The car continued to race in this form through 1957 when Fritz d'Orey converted it to a MN Monoposto with a Corvette V8 engine. Colin Crabbe found the remains of the Ferrari-Chevrolet in the 1960s/ 70s and it was soon sold to Dries van der Lof in the Netherlands and restored to perfection by Tony Merrick. This is believed to be the car depicted here recently receiving a Ferrari classiche resto https://www.secret-classics.com/ferrari-375-f1-restaurierung/

    There are the four Indy 375s but thats another story for another day.
     
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  18. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

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    #43 miurasv, Sep 20, 2022
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    Do you mean 24 plugs with the 1951 twin ignition engine rather than the 1950 single ignition engine with 12 plugs? All the 340/375 engines had 24 valves. A V12 needs at least 24 valves. ;)
     
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  19. bigodino

    bigodino F1 World Champ
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  20. bigodino

    bigodino F1 World Champ
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    I was there Friday and Saturday. I felt it was less crowded than usual, especially around the track. So That was great for taking pictures.
    Jonathan, thanks for the pictures! Did you see the Talacrest cars at the classic car park?
    (0069, 0159, 6691 and 12601)
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  21. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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  22. bigodino

    bigodino F1 World Champ
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    I'm trying to watch the live streams but all links say it's no longer available. Anyone have a link that does work?
     
  23. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ
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    That's all gone but you should be able to find each individual race on Youtube.
     
  24. Timmmmmmmmmmy

    Timmmmmmmmmmy F1 Rookie

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    Yes, good point, I mixed my valves and my plugs, I am sure there is more to that than just engine stuff lol
     
  25. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Six Time F1 World Champ
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