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  1. senna21

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    #1 senna21, Jun 22, 2005
    For all of you who are so quick to club Michelin take a look at this,

    From Motorsport.com, Tired of Tires? Here's More
    They weren't the first to screw up and they won't be the last. The FIA should have worked to get the race to happen.
     
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    #3 tifosi12, Jun 22, 2005
    Absolutely and it could have been quite simple.
     
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    #4 bretm, Jun 22, 2005
    In the cases he sights, not one involves changing the track, especially not the day of the race. So, what is he getting at? Should all the teams have been allowed to run Bridgestone? Because that is his (ingenius) "tire-guy" solution to all the problems they apparently had at GoodYear.

    Michelin, the company that has a tantrum because their tires are uncompetitive one race during in a season that they have dominated, would have no doubt helped McLaren, Williams, etc. mount Bridgestones this weekend...

    And that's it, their tires weren't unsafe, they were unsafe in a competitive setup. Had the pressures been raised, and the suspension setups changed, there would be little doubt they could have gone the race distance (albeit entirely uncompetitively performance wise).

    Yawn, just another windbag looking to throw his $.02 in. And the third paragraph is his best, good job meathead... no one has paid attention to tires at all this season in F1... It's probably the single most talked about topic since they started in Australia. Is this guy joking?

    Get Dennis or Williams to comment, then you have a case.
     
  5. senna21

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    #5 senna21, Jun 22, 2005
    I would have been happy with that solution, but something tells me I don't think Bridgestone had enough tires on hand to cover the field. Not their fault, how were they to know. But, no where have I read that this was even brought up as a solution. That aside what other solution other than changing the track configuration is there? Besides there is plenty of over-night chicanes that were added to F1 circuits during the 1994 season after the tragedy at Immola. Precedence had been set in that.

    Sources on the tires going the distance please? Once again a wind bag seems to have "inside information" that isn't published anywhere.

    Yea, the guy from Goodyear is a wind bag but your the expert on the subject. :rolleyes: And don’t you think that if Williams or McLaren felt they could produce a better tire than the tire manufacturers they would? Given the fact that they don’t know as much about tires as the tire manufacturers how would their statements have more weight than Bill’s? FWIW I'm sure Williams and Ron will be making their feelings felt in one way or another after their meeting with Max.

    The FIA blew it.
     
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    #6 cshargh, Jun 22, 2005
    On the surface his comments make sense. I almost even fell for it. But a few key points not to be missed:

    1) NASCAR cars are not as fine tuned as F1 cars, thus they can change manufacurers and still run. I doubt if the F1 cars running Michelins could run Bridgestones, even if Bridgestone could fly in triple the tires that they had brought in, in order to supply the other teams last minute.

    2) Keep in mind that Goodyear was forced out of F1 by Bridgestone, could there be an old axe sitting around somewhere waiting to be ground?

    Comparing NASCAR and CART racing from up to 20 years ago to F1 of today is just completely unjustified.
     
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    #7 eurperules, Jun 22, 2005
    whatever the opinion on this debacle, one has to admit that this is a friendly gesture by goodyear.

    looks to be an honest and sincere market sector imo
     
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    #8 racerx3317, Jun 22, 2005

    I think that Goodyear would know. They are not only saying how mistakes could happen they are also airing thier own dirty laundry which is brave and should not be taken lightly. As far as F1 tires and Nascar and Champcar tires, while they are all different a Nascar tire would be a difficult animal to produce as well. The weight of a stock car, combined with the sustained speeds and loads that these tires must accept safely requires a lot of development as well. It cannot possibly be easy to produce such a tire. I think Goodyear is on the level with this one.
     
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    #9 400iGuy, Jun 22, 2005
    Bill's example of the multiple times one tire supplier took up the slack when the other had major tire issues has no bearing in this situation. NASCAR mandated (probably still mandates) that any tire manufacturer that was going to play in the NASCAR NEXTEL (a.k.a., Winston Cup, Grand National) sandbox HAD to be prepared to supply the entire starting field at every race they showed up at. So Hoosier, who supplied a small percentage of the NASCAR field as does Bridgestone in F1, HAD to come to every race with enough tires for everyone. So did Goodyear. That requirement isn't the FIA's call. It's Bernie's.

    Just another $.02 worth......
     
  10. senna21

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    #10 senna21, Jun 22, 2005
    Agreed, to some degree. I was just replying to a question that it could have been a viable option if Bridgestone had enough tires to cover the field. I then said I doubted they did, and they weren't at fault for not being able to do so. I didn't state the facts as I was trying to keep my answer as short as possible. What it does show is the willingness of the sanctioning body to ensure that the race takes place under extreme circumstances. I also believe it's the FIA that sets the rules. Bernie (and the banks) are just the owners of the series. They only have a rubber stamp on proceedings. As shown by the accounts I've read that Bernie was a go for the chicane and was over ruled by Max on the subject. It is after all a FIA sanctioned event, not a Bernie sanctioned event.
     
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    #11 Hoyt Clagwell, Jun 22, 2005
    I read this over an hour ago and I'm still laughing :) I gotta remember this one !!
     
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    #12 SFerrari, Jun 23, 2005
    Does goodyear a tyres manufacturer ? Didn't know till this post.
    For road cars as well or just track cars ?

    Thanks
     
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    #13 BartonWorkman, Jun 23, 2005
    Goodyear have withdrawn from most forms of motorsport with the exception of NASCAR and drag racing.

    When they pulled out of CART, you never saw so many happy people.

    BHW
     
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    #14 SFerrari, Jun 23, 2005
    Thanks for the answer.
    I know now ;-)
     

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