Easier if you just call them
I'm actually very interested. So does the clutch switch wire into the start button or does it somehow know you are in neutral?!
It just knows if the clutch pedal is depressed- it wires directly into one of the ecu's. The good news is that I can see that the EAG repro pedals have the indentation on them to contact the switch in the normal position.
I bought the switch yesterday When it arrives, I will manually test it by connecting it, see if the car starts, if it doesn't, push it in with my hand and see if it then starts I am having difficulty understanding how it mounts If anyone out there has a stick with a clutch pedal switch and can take a picture, I would be immensely grateful! This is what mine looks like I *think* part 180516 would go where the white bushing is and hold the switch, you know what they say about a picture....thanks all Image Unavailable, Please Login
The bracket for the clutch pedal switch goes where that whitish spacer is in the picture. Please note that there is another spacer on the other side of the clutch pedal. This means that the clutch pedal is very slightly canted on the mounting bar, as it is pushed slightly further to the left when the actual clutch switch bracket is in place. The clutch pedal being slightly canted made it more difficult to slide down the mounting bar (towards the acceleration pedal) to remove the clutch pedal. Once the spacers are removed and the bracket is mounted, the clutch pedal is then in an anatomic position, and the bar slides back easily. Kevin
Thank you Kevin, that is what I assumed I was hoping for a pic by someone who has one so I can confirm that it is the part I need As to how I'm going to find one, I have no idea, apparently, they went out of production years ago if it is in fact part 180516
I got my bracket, new, just over s month ago. Hard to see the bracket with the switch on though. Kevin Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Sent from my SM-G930P using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Maybe the moderator can extract the current posts into another thread. I am curious the benefit/drawback of having this switch (or not having it).
From what I gather, one of the functions that uses the clutch switch is there to help you at low revs when manoeuvring (when the steering pump is drawing a lot of torque from the engine). The clutch switch allows the ecu to know when you’re about to demand more torque so that it can compensate for you. Like I said, this is just one function, but you’d surely rather have it the way it’s meant to be. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Well some of us remember being able to start cars without needing to step on the clutch and in particular I remember my father doing it and accidentally driving (lurching) into the house So that's one reason !
Yes, I did the clutch bracket and switch myself. I also had the ECUs flashed to re-enable the clutch switch. Interestingly, despite this, the clutch does not need to be depressed to start the car. I wonder if this is normal gated behavior??? I also didn't notice any difference in the performance regarding the switch itself. Kevin Sent from my SM-G930P using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Kudos on the install!! Interesting, we're you told it had to be flash enabled? So pull off the end nut, remove, re-assemble? If the clutch does not need to be depressed to start the car, not sure I'm doing it, that's my main reason, hmmm Anyone with a factory gated that can weigh in? @ttforcefed, if you don't mind the question, I believe you said you have a stock 360 gated, does that require depressing the clutch to start? Your F430? Thank you SO much for my presumptuous question, and apologies if I'm being too nosy. My switch came in but not quite ready for starting (installing stuff), should get to it tomorrow to dry test it.
This is my understanding: Because the clutch switch was not installed at the time of conversion, its functioning had to be disabled in the ECU. Yes regarding disassembly and reassembly. You will have to screw the bracket onto the tube, as it must remain stationary. Also as I mentioned, it might be difficult to slide down the tube, as the clutch pedal is slightly canted in position. For an anatomic positioning, the spacers should all have been placed between the brake and clutch pedal, rather then 1 on each side of the clutch pedal. Once the bracket is installed and the clutch pedal is in its anatomic position, the tube slid back very easily. Your experience may differ, though. Kevin
Oof how do you test that? I hope EAG starts replicating that bracket and installing as part of their work. I see it coming up as like $300 and such a small simple piece. Almost makes sense to just run a bracket off the brake switch piece there and have the stocks switch land in the same spot.
@kes7u Kevin - Thank you! Great explanation @ttforcefed - thank you for the response, sounds like they were able to do yours all at once, so got the step/start working @Sj_engr agreed on all points, they should include it, at least optionally Agreed, a side bracket sounds like a good idea
