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Got beat by a Subaru!!

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by HMS, Mar 5, 2004.

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  1. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

    hey listen , you would be welcome to visit. i also have a 930 turbo that is so fast you can't stop laughing when your on the gas. it is the sport compact killer...and it's bullet proof! chicks do love the scoots though...don't they.

    give me an email and i will try to send you some pics and video clips of my bike.

    peter
     
  2. Shank2001

    Shank2001 Rookie

    Mar 11, 2004
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    S. California
    I hope you Ferrari owners understand that not all WRX, STI or EVO owners are like EVO8... not even close. This guy is giving all of us a bad reputation. This guy is in high school and obviously has an image problem as well as a complete lack of maturaty. Keep in mind that most people that buy the Subaru WRX are car enthusiasts and respect Ferraris as much as most of the mature Ferrari owners on here respect the WRX. This thread started off nice until EVO8 (and a few others) stuck his pimply face in here. Most of us WRX owners love performance cars in any form.

    The problem is that there are also some owners such as EVO8 that we have to put up with because the cars in question are cheap enough that Mommy and Daddy can buy one for their high school kid, who is obviously not old enough to appreciate the car. So those on this Ferrari forum, count yourself lucky that you do not have to put up with people like EVO8 on a constant basis in your forum like we WRX/STI owners do on our forum... The noise is constant, and people who are serious about their car (as serious as any Ferrari owner) have to wade through all the childish posts such as what EVO8 is famous for. It gets annoying really fast. Just remember, most of us are true car enthusiasts and not immature brats. ;) Just go to a SCCA event to see how serious most of us are.

    Regards,
    Sean
     
  3. LAfun2

    LAfun2 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Oct 31, 2003
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    Well I will see you in a few months :D I will have to be there all day, to check ou the F car and the 930 and the DUC!

    [email protected]

    also I have instant messenger civ991 on AIM and lafun2 on yahoo IM
     
  4. sherpa23

    sherpa23 F1 World Champ
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    Sean, that's a good first post. Welcome to Ferrari chat. We welcome your contributions.
     
  5. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

    la ...you have yahoo mail.

    yeah sean...good first post. i also started out in scca when i was 16. did solo2 then solo1 then did my 2 drivers schools (first @charlotte in a ralt rt-1 atlantic w/ cosworth bda and second @road atlanta in a schnitzer gt3 bmw) and went racing!
     
  6. tifosi69

    tifosi69 Formula 3

    Dec 23, 2003
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    Guys the STi is a bad ass car, fast, nimble, quick and I like the real rally-car looks. But just like the pimply-faced teens revving their Mustang engines at redlights whenever they pull up to one of us Ferrari drivers, it DOES NOT matter whose 0-60 time is better. They are still in a dime-a-dozen car that people see a zillion of every day, whereas our cars are truly SPECIAL.
     
  7. Shank2001

    Shank2001 Rookie

    Mar 11, 2004
    2
    S. California
    Cool, I notice you are in San Diego... do you ever go racing at Qualcomm Stadium?

    Regards,
    Sean
     
  8. ilivas

    ilivas Rookie

    Mar 8, 2004
    22
    I don't view it as a dime a dozen when I get my hands dirty to instal parts, and totally maintain the car. I've spent too much time on my laptop data logging in the car trying to get the right fuel and timing trim. A mechanic has never touched it. I sit hours on end deciding the perfect combination of parts I need to install next. I do it for the simple gratification of speed. That's true enthusiasm. That's what I think that makes mine better than most.

    I love ferraris but you don't get my respect when you dont put any effort into the car and just own a garage queen. There's alot of people with ferraris who have never popped the hood, changed the oil, or even checked the tire pressure. Some owners just don't deserve to have them. I'm sure Enzo Ferrari would be rolling in his grave if he knew his life work is just collecting dust in some garage not being enjoyed by a true enthusiast.
     
  9. sherpa23

    sherpa23 F1 World Champ
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    Ilivas, I agree. Very well said. What do you have on your car? Any pics?
     
  10. tifosi69

    tifosi69 Formula 3

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    Actually, that is not true. Enzo really did not give a damn about the street cars, rather he saw them as a means to an end. He ONLY sold street cars to finance his racing endeavors.
     
  11. ChuckEBaby

    ChuckEBaby Formula 3
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    Exactly!
     
  12. ilivas

    ilivas Rookie

    Mar 8, 2004
    22
    That's a cool tid bit of information.


    Sherpa here's the mod list.

    18g turbo
    walbro fuel pump
    ultimate racing 600cc injectors
    turboxs front mount intercooler
    RA gear set
    Turbo XS UTEC engine management system
    Blitz intake
    Helix Downpipe
    Helix Up-pipe
    Borla catback exhaust
    tein s-tech springs
    Rota Wheels
    Yokohama avs sport tires

    12.2 sec 1/4 mile @119 mph <really bad 60 foot time
     
  13. madturk

    madturk Formula 3
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    ilivas, just how much did all your mods cost??
    Did you get all the work done yourself?
     
  14. zjpj

    zjpj F1 Veteran

    Nov 4, 2003
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    About 4,000 more views to beat the bikini thread....
     
  15. ilivas

    ilivas Rookie

    Mar 8, 2004
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    Probably about 5k dollars. Yeah, I did all the work myself. I've spent too many hours on this car and I've only had this car for a month and a half. I probably saved at least 1k dollars in labor. This car isn't fast enough for me yet.
     
  16. JSinNOLA

    JSinNOLA Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Mar 18, 2002
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    There are a lot of Ferrari owners who have serious time contraints. Just because they don't spend "hours and hours" working on their cars does not mean that they appreciate them any less. Just try not to be so blanketing, thats all.
     
  17. ilivas

    ilivas Rookie

    Mar 8, 2004
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    I wasn't trying to be blanketing, I was just exploiting the sterotypical ferrari owner. I understand, my dad is a business owner. I know the effort it takes to make money. Even though I am a college student, I do have a part-time job. My father may be wealthy, but I pay for my car and everything that goes on it. Having to pay for all that doesn't leave me much time for leisure.
     
  18. JSinNOLA

    JSinNOLA Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Mar 18, 2002
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    Sounds respectable to me. I was just trying to understand your viewpoint a little better. You cleared it up. Thanks:)

    Also, there are VERY FEW of those Ferrari owner stereotypes here, rest assured!
     
  19. entice

    entice Rookie

    Mar 10, 2004
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    Melbourne
    Peter, you are a gentleman.

    Thank you for restoring my faith in Ferrari ownership.
     
  20. Turb0flat4

    Turb0flat4 Formula 3

    Mar 7, 2004
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    Hi there, this is my first post. I drive a modded 2002 WRX, and am a huge fan of Ferrari (which hot blooded male isn't ? :) ). I'm happy that many of you give props to the STi, but also a little saddened that there are ppl who are unshakeably convinced that no STi can, under any circumstances beat a Ferrari.

    Well, here's an interesting vidclip of a track day at the F1 Circuit in Sepang, Malaysia. The white WRX STi is driven by a friend from the Singapore Subaru Club, a very good driver. (BTW, this is the 2 liter European version we get here in Singapore, as opposed to the 2.5 liter one peculiar to the US domestic market). The 550 is driven by a stranger.

    In all fairness, I should mention that the 550 driver said later that he wasn't pushing hard because he was experiencing overheating problems. Regardless, I think you'll agree the STi put in a very commendable performance indeed. Please don't underestimate the performance potential of Subaru, just because it's an economy car.

    Oh yeah, and don't bother commenting on the driving of the chase car (an Evo). That guy (I don't know who he is) really needs to work on his lines. ;) Also, the Evo, the M3 and the Integra Type R at the start were apparently driving slowly because it was their warm down lap. And I know the Radical SR3 driver was a maniac (he was censured later by the track officials, I believe).

    It's an interesting video, do check it out (it's over 30 MB though, please be patient ;) )

    http://www.wrxfanatics.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=120665
     
  21. mk e

    mk e F1 World Champ

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    I think some are forgetting that it is really not right to compare cars that are not in the same state of tune, modded vs stock. Will a highly modded wxr beat a ferrari, probably. Wil it beat a highly modded ferrari, well probably not just because of the displacement difference. A 550 with boost will make well over 1000 hp in street trim, so will a viper or vette. The general rule is 200 hp/liter. A wrx would need to be at 45-60 psi boost to make a number like that, there is no replacement for displacement. It could probably be done, but it would cost a fortune to build that engine. The other thing is that most top end sports cars are fast enough for most people just the way they come from the show room, most compact cars are not, and they sell a lot more compact cars. So it's not really a surprise that there are way more modded compact cars than ferraris. There is a little bit of culture difference too, it's been my finding that most ferrari owners don't really approve of modifying Enzo's work. It's also very expensive to modify a ferrari because all the patrs have to be custom made, so what would be a $5k kit on a honda is a $25k job on a ferrari. I didn't do a good job keeping track, but I think adding the blower system to mine used about $8k-$10k in parts plus about 250 hours of labor, so about $30k to have it done.
     
  22. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

    Nov 20, 2002
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    Yep mk_e is right, give me any piece of **** car and I can modify it to beat any Ferrari or Lambo or possibly even a McLaren F1 OR even tremble any WRX ... so what!.

    I can think of many track cars that probably cost less than some of the computers you guys are using that regularly destroy Ferraris on the race track and probably WRX's too.

    Thus you have to compare apples with apples. A standard WRX is no whoopy fncken big deal. It accelerates so fast because the ratios are so low and close together it just has to. It has been a great rally car and good on Subaru for making it ... but I can think of around 2000 production cars that are as good or equal to the WRX. **** throw a turbo on a Toyota Corolla of my sister in laws and I could probably give some WRX's a fright, or even give me $10,000 and I'll make my people move Toyota Tarago lap Eastern Creek faster than a Ferrari 355.

    So this thread started with a Ferrari something getting blown by a Subaru WRX. Take that same Ferrari to a local race track and it will get destroyed by home built specials that look like the back of a barn. No car can win every race ... and in the end who fncken cares about loosing a pathetic traffic light GP ... they do not count. The only race that counts is on a real race track where excuses are not possible.

    This is the stupidest thread on this site ... just pathetic, lowers this site to all the other dribble that other sites w*nk on about.

    Pete
     
  23. ilivas

    ilivas Rookie

    Mar 8, 2004
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    A WRX is geared fairly high. 5th gear tops out at 180+mph.
     
  24. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Er, I think you have been drinking ;), maybe 180+kph but DEFINITELY not 180+ mph. 180 kph in fifth gear is VERY low, and BTW very slow. My mums Isuzu Piaza could do 180 kph too ... no big deal, I bet my Toyota Tarago could get close to that speed.

    My last club racing car could exceed 160 kph in FIRST gear. I imagine most Ferraris do not select 5th gear when going hard until over 200+ kph ... and they still have 6th to go.

    Pete

    EDIT: If it would top out at 180+mph it will never get their and it is an OVERDRIVE for economy not for performance.

    Nowadays a sub 150 mph (250 kph) car is slow, and no big deal as even most shopping cars now can hit 200 kph.
     
  25. entice

    entice Rookie

    Mar 10, 2004
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    Melbourne
    Actually, as far as completeness goes, STi's are electronically limited to 235km/h...
     

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