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GP Hungary: Refuelling incidents

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  1. Far Out

    Far Out F1 Veteran

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    We saw several (3 or 4) incidents where small amounts of fuel catched fire during refuelling. Although the mechanics immediately used their extinguishers, I'm really worried - we haven't seen fire for quite a while, and now 3 or 4 times within a couple of minutes?! On German TV, they suggested that the nozzle of the fuelling gear warped slightly due to the heat, but I think that's not very likely as we've seen hotter races where nothing happened, and if such a solid piece of metal starts to warp at 30°C, the manufacturer would be in serious trouble. Does anyone have more info about the matter?
     
  2. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Only pretty much what was said on ITV, explaining it could be something to do with expansion due to the heat.

    Seems strange though, sure it will be looked into.
     
  3. DGS

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    I'm as concerned about the timing and scoring errors. They missed all of the early pit stops in Germany, and missed both of Kimi's stops in Hungary.

    How long before someone figures out that if T&S isn't recording the pit stops, how will they call you on pit lane speeding?
     
  4. 1_can_dream

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    Wasn't Matchett saying something about how T&S has a minimum amount of time that you have to pass the sector points in order to be classified as running on track? sounds a bit weird to me.
     
  5. DGS

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    #5 DGS, Aug 3, 2008
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    They were saying that, which does seem like an odd way of keeping track of the cars. If it were just for the press, that'd be one thing.

    But if you look at the pit summary on formula1.com, neither of Kimi's pit stops are listed. For the German GP, all of the stops before lap 21 are missing. According to that summary, the McLarens only had one stop each.

    It seems like when the transponders act up, the pit information gets missed too. (Total pit time,etc.)

    The officials use that telemetry for a lot -- jumping the start, pit times, track position, etc.

    I'd think the officials would have someone with a clipboard backing up the electronics, but it doesn't look like it. So if they rely on the electronics and the electronics aren't working, there's trouble brewing.
     
  6. VIZSLA

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    It was 86 F and the high tech metals warped? Wasn't Bahrain hotter? The engine heat would seem to be so high to begin with that the ambient temp shouldn't be a factor.
     
  7. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    it looked like actually the fuel spilled outta the nozzle when it was finished refueling. now, isn't the refueling rig equipped in such a way, that when the fuel man pull it out of the car, not a single drop would come out of it?
     

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