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Great F1 article!

Discussion in 'F1' started by notoboy, Jul 1, 2005.

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  1. notoboy

    notoboy F1 Rookie

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  2. Prova85

    Prova85 Formula 3

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    Great link. Thanks.

    Never cared for Tom's as a hardware site but this article is a decent look into the behind the scenes look at the IT side.
     
  3. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

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    Very good article, thanks for posting it up.

    One thing I read was new to me and I really don't like it. Here's the quote:

    I don't see much driver input for a memory system like this. It doesn't really force the driver to push himself to the limit, just a computer going to the limit and keeping him from passing it. I wish they would get rid of this system so we can actually see drivers correcting oversteer if they ever over-acclerate in a turn.
     
  4. smart_alek

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    I agree, I thought they had done away with settings for each corner in 2001. That is part of the reason why I see WRC drivers as the best drivers out there.
     
  5. senna21

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    Agreed. This smacks to me of active suspension. Ok, so it isn't working to control ride height but it is controlling everything else. :(
     
  6. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

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    After reading that, I now don't think F1 has the greatest drivers in the world (WRC for sure now). I was all for technology and against the 2008 rule suggestions, but not anymore after reading that settings change automatically for each corner. I can't believe something like that would get passed, it takes a lot of the driver skill out. Everytime I watched a race that showed streaming data from a car, the driver would use the thorttle and brakes more like on/off buttons and I just assumed the cars had awesome grip and good traction control.
     
  7. imperial83

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    This is the entire pretext behind the A1GP series... determione best drivers without driving aids.

    www.a1gp.com

    I think both the F1 and A1 series can survive together and complent each other. F1 has always been about the technology. It is the contructor's world championship that matters more than the driver's title in F1 (atleast to me!). A series like A1 with one spec car will be able to determine driving abilities more than F1.

    Back to the topic:
    Technology companies like AMD, Intel, Acer and HP are doing some really creative things as technology partners for F1 teams. Many engineers and mechnics use all kinds of communications devices, electronic organizers and gadgets to improve the quality of thier work. I would hope that the functional use of technology in F1 continues but at a regulated pace so that technology is not abused to give teams an unfair advantage.
     
  8. Senna1994

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    Kinda makes you long for the manual shifted, traction control free, 1,000 hp Turbo cars, Mechanical Grip, etc...
     
  9. s_eric09

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    Amen,

    and take out the drive by wire too
     
  10. Senna1994

    Senna1994 F1 World Champ

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    Long Live, G. Villenueve, A. Prost, N. Mansell, N. Lauda, A. Senna, and N. Piquet.
     
  11. s_eric09

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    you better add Schumy, or imperial is going to be mad. lol

    cheers

    edit: oh and fangio too!!!
     
  12. Senna1994

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    I mean't the drivers from the 80's. If I did, Clark would be Number 1. Schumi would be included but he didn't race in the 80's. I don't give a **** what Imperial thinks anyway.
     
  13. ferrari_209

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    They don't really even steer the car.
     
  14. 62 250 GTO

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    You guys are quick to jump off the band wagon!
    True fans I guess?


    """since we can automatically limit the speed through engine braking," Rampf explained. Pretty amazing..."""

    This is false. You can not use an automatic device to slow the car down in anyway.

    So they must have meant the driver sing the gears to engine brake.

    Perhaps you guys should learn more about the rules and cars before you bail in or out of F1 racing.
     
  15. imperial83

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    Michael Schumacher could probably lap anyone of them!!! :)
     
  16. s_eric09

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    Maybe, but when getting close to a tight corner, i dont know who would do a crazier move, GV or MS

    anyways my fav is fangioooooo
     
  17. dinogts

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    If the original linked article at THG was correct, then why were the Michelin teams saying that they couldn't control their drivers at turn 13? According to the article, the teams could have programmed in limiters, apparently without much fuss.
     
  18. judge4re

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    Knowing some of the "humor" from the pit lane, $5 says that the technical staff was having a little fun with him...
     
  19. Mr Payne

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    I had never heard of this before the article...
     
  20. ferrari_209

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    Either way you look at it driving an F1 15 years ago was more challenging than driving one now.
     

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