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  1. Lagunae92

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    If only we could get Mazda Red.
     
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    Appreciate it[emoji6]. Yes, all is fixed and well. Would never know.
     
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  5. ferrariwithsnowtires

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    Bravo for the level of candor in this thread
    I have noted elsewhere that Ferrari spends 4.75% of sales on warranty costs, in plain language their quality is bad
    The paint thing is strange, they have a paint shop and all kinds of steps to prep the body and inspections and they cover body panels during assembly
    I have a Gen 2 NSX, over 7 years old, no issues with the hybrid system, Ferrari could have cars with similar customer expectations if they tried (if is a big word)
    Back to paint, when Honda developed the Gen 2 NSX production systems, they obsessed over paint and I would note I didn't have issues like this customer had on his stunning 296
    I just think Ferrari customers make it too easy for the company, paying crazy money for BS stuff like shields (at 3 levels of stab and grab) and now the in thing is passenger displays and not demanding the car is right when they receive it
    One would hope the company shows some respect for clients and would do a good job at these prices, and in this case, the owner mentioned he has an SF90, PS, 812 Comp Aperta and SP3 coming (if that isn't a top level client, I am missing something)
     
  6. Lagunae92

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    It’s already done and eventually that exhaust is a must!
     
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    A whole lot of copium. “Limited time” maybe they should use the 35k I paid for the paint to extend that time a little?
     
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    I recently measured 5 different 812 Superfasts and SF90s in a showroom with a paint meter and they all had paint thickness from 120-250um on a single element (e.g. hood). If it wasn’t for the fact it was all the cars, I would assume there was some accident involved.
     
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  10. KL runner

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    No the green car is not mine , way too bold a colour for me . I am finalising my spec right now , the colour choice is down to Rosso Fuoco or Rosso Magma , just waiting for samples as all the pics in the world, and there are some really good ones across Ferrari chat , do not tell the story unfortunately .
     
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    Tough choice. I did my Pista in Fuoco, and had initially toyed with ordering Magma, but dealer talked me out of it since it wasn't a Ferrari color. I guess if I could go back, I would do Magma, but both great.
     
  12. KL runner

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    I get it ! That is where I am at .
     
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    An incremental $35K doesn't provide sufficient time to get it right?
     
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    Yeah, that inconsistency is about the same as Larry (the guy in the AMMO videos) gets in all Ferraris. He chucks it up to how it's done by hand and how it'll never be as uniform as a machine.

    The best paint jobs were done by Lexus and Subaru, weirdly enough. Lexus I believe, but honestly haven't been near a Subaru to see.
     
  16. ryalex

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    Subaru surprises me as I've had one and the paint was nail polish, you could chip it with a harsh tone of voice. And had some orange peel.

    As for Lexus, my own observation is that the 1) Lexus LC/LX/LS level and 2) Audi 8 level vehicles have pretty flawless, thick paint as delivered. Best I've seen on production cars.
     
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    So, would you say, that if I order my 296 with a machine paint job chances are higher that the paint will be in a decent condition or the other way around, if I take painted shields (and get the rest hand painted) it might be a quality issue ?
     
  19. Scheki

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    Thank you for this explanation !! Because I am interested in this I repeat my former question:
    So in different words: Would you say, that the chance to have paint issues rises when you go for 3 / 4 layer colors and/or livery or painted shield compared to 2 layer colors without extra paint jobs like shields ?
     
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    #45 jimmyb, Dec 29, 2023
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    Who pays the paint correction bill for a brand new car with these paint issues?
    It's amazing that Honda can sell you an entire $35K Accord with none of these issues.

    As far as Lexus paint, my father in law's RX350 has a lot more orange peel than my daughter's new 2024 Trax. You want to see a nice factory paint job, go to a Mazda dealer. They have the least amount of orange peel (on a mass produced car) that I've seen. I laugh when people say their car ("regular" car) has no orange peel. My answer is always "then you don't know what orange peel is".
    In the Ferrari realm of pricing, Aston Martin wins the "great paint" award.
     
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    Honorable mentions for Bentley and Rolls Royce
     
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    This is true, I had 3 Aston Martins and in my experience these cars have incredible colors and paint jobs. Not perfect but far away from what I see and read here !
     
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    So...
    Who pays the paint correction bill on a new Ferrari (like the green 296 in this thread)?

    And...
    Are these cars coming FROM Ferrari in this condition or is this damage being done at port of entry?
     
  24. mkraft3003

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    Sometimes you can convince dealer to pay for it otherwise the customer will pay. As for where damage is done, no way to know unless you personally see it get on the boat and see the condition. I would suspect if QC was done correctly it would leave the factory perfect but that assumes a lot.
     
  25. jimmyb

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    #50 jimmyb, Jan 2, 2024
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    ^^^
    How does the customer get stuck with the paint correction tab?
    Literally ANY other car company, delivering a car in the condition the OP green 296 was in, would fix it, on their dime.
    I find it unbelievable that Ferrari thinks this (sticking the customer with the paint correction bill) is acceptable. Of course, they could just paint the car right the first time...it's not THAT hard.

    What's their (Ferrari's) stance?
    "Hey, you wanted a car with paint on it...we sold you a car...with paint on it"

    I guess it's good to be king...:rolleyes:
    But they better be careful...one day they may not be "king" and all this bad will that is shockingly accepted by their customers (bad paint, sticky buttons, wanky electronics, etc) will be their death (witness how much trouble they were in when Luca took over in the early 1990's).
     
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