Ground effect, turbos set for F1 return

Why don't they just go straight to electric and skip this step? You all know that is where this path leads.

 

Pure electric vehicles are not the future for racing cars or for road cars.

Living in California I would have though you would already have experienced the big drawback with electric power, and that is generating it. Like it or not, electric power is not as green as some people like to think and is gradually becoming more and more in short supply.

If anything, I would say they'd go with Hydrogen power (provided it could be stored safely enough to be safe in a racing accident). Before that, you're more likely to see diesel F1 first!.

 

http://www.formula1journal.com/2010/09/2013-technical-regulations-by-flood1.html

If this actually goes through (particularly the engine bit) then I and many other Formula 1 fans will be through with the sport. I am so sick of limiting everything...I don't have a problem with shaking up things but let them play with it rather than limit RPMS, etc.

Personally, I think that the engine freeze is one of the worst things to happen to F1 in a long time.

 

I don't see any substance behind this article, especially the engine bit - all the author does is list the technologies the manufacturers have in their road cars...

 

I hear you but in the here and now of ridiculous Eco-Nazism and PC I fear that F1 is heading down the toilet.

...and YES the sound is a huge part of F1.

 

Motor racing less noisy? GTFO!!! Why? Use earplugs!!! Maybe F1 could dial it down 1 or 2 decibels (the honda engines actually did hurt my ears when they where still racing), the rest was acceptable .

Actually, this post made me realize that there is a good sounding 4 cilinder...:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjou0zRJZBE

 

No worries. Remember F1's sole purpose is a giant marketing exercise and that only works if the fans like it. They're not going down a path that would make actually sense from a road car development perspective nor a path that is PC/green. They will pick what creates the best show.

All these changes are discussion points to see how the teams, the companies, the fans and the press react. Then they will choose something.

Also keep in mind how Mosley negotiated change: He picked the most extreme/worst scenario, let the teams get all upset about it and then came their way getting what he really wanted. I assume Todt will operate similarly. Max was a moron, but he knew how to get his way and Todt I'm sure will get his will as well.

 

Formula ABBA.

 

German GP at Hockenheim, 1981, Slim Borgudd (drummer of ABBA).
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Are they 'going green' to attract more viewers? So then I have to ask, do they really believe they are going to get more viewers by 'going green'? Going green is the stupidest thing I hear in F1.

I know very high levels of power can be achieved by 4 cylinder turbos, but come on, wouldn't we rather see them allow V10's and V12's again? Or if they want turbos, atleast allow 6 cylinders...Allow them all! Just get away from engine freeze and spec # of cylinders, etc.

I'm one of those that is very tired of all the restrictions. IT'S F1!!!!!



Alex

 

Oh please. For the folks that live in the vicinity of a track, they are so far away that there is no health danger. It's just a nuisance issue. (Which is a legitimate issue.)

 

As much as I agree with you that was then, and this is now. PC and going green isn't about logic, it's what those people want to hear.

 

Hi Guys. The point of the article was to combine the technical regs, regs that have been leaking out of the technical working groups, with a rationale of why that would satisfy the manufacturers. My point was to find the link between road car technology and F1's future.

We are all asking "why" this particular path, and I was trying to answer that question. I think the answer to "why" is because it matches the manufacturers vision of the future, whether we fans like it or not. I am convinced that this will be the car of tomorrow, but I do not know if the interior details of the engine will be free or frozen. But I am convinced that the number of cylinders and the displacement will be.

Thanks for you time. Forza Ferrari!

 

With rare exceptions, I am sure that the racetrack was there first, and they made the choice to move there, knowing full well what the track meant in terms of noise...

 

It will, or they will be hydrogen powered.

I don't see a problem myself. No point racing oil powered cars when everything else moves by something else, that would make F1 a TV show only and not be related to technology at all.

The races in the movie Star Wars (can't remember which one) looked like good fun ...
Pete

 

Understood, but oneday we will all go mad in the silence, or because of the lack of challenging activities to involve oneself in. All sports make noise, and I for one want to LIVE my life not just get to a ripe old age and be satisfied I made it.

Think of your children, not being allowed to experience anything ... that is the end result of all this OVER controlling by big brother.
Pete

 

I know full well of these noise complaints. 99.9% are made by idiots who move next to a track because the house/flat was cheap and then all they do for the next couple of years ring up to complain whenever they hear a noise. I can understand it if a race track has just been build next to your home, but fact of the matter is, most tracks have been there LONG before the people moved there.

Classic case in point: Zandvoort. Circuit Zandvoort has been there for over 60 years now, and right now it can only have 3 'noise' weekends a year. Trackdays are very limited, very few a year. Why? Because some old hag, whose life hasn't turned out exactly how she wanted to, but still wanted to move close to the sea, could only afford a small flat which was close to the race track. She and 3 others are the only persons calling to complain about the noise.

I'm sorry, but unless you've lived there BEFORE the track was there, STFU and watch grass grow. Straight execution is necessary I'm afraid. Old people are evil

 

Same with Jarama: it was in the middle of nowhere until someone decided to build houses there, who knows why, probably because there is a golf club too or something like that.

Although, truth must be told, Jarama was dead anyways because it is old, narrow and dirty.

 

In cases like this, they also receive the right to get told to F**k off.

 

Agree 100%