I love all of these posts comparing various models to Ferrari track and speed times. It's pointless - NO ONE CARES!!! I took the 355 out for a spin today for the first time in 6 months. As I was cruising down the 405 I realized that I was driving a car that was designed and engineered 15 years ago. That's a long time in today's ever changing world. And yet the car elicited so much attention it put a smile on my face. I had stalkers trying to get up close to follow me all the while warding off other stalkers who wanted to slip in behind me. I had Saleen mustangs and rice rockets that wanted to race me, etc. If you've driven a Ferrari you know the attention I am talking about. Now, pretend it's 15 years from now in 2023. Do any of you think that a 2008 GT-R/ZR1/911 are going to garner anyone's interest? Do you really think anyone will remember the Nring times of today? NO. But they will warm up to the sight of a 2008 430/599. So go on and get a woody for whatever times get posted and compared to today's Fcars. Once you get them on the road. No one will care. What really matters is the passion that Ferrari inspires. Whether it's happy-passion that elicits a thumbs up from other drivers or hater-passion from jealous people. No car elicits passion from the general public like Ferrari. Passion cannot be measured with a stop watch but it can be measured from experience. Speed and performance are just a small part of what makes a car. Design, history of the marquee, exclusivity and many other factors determine the quality of a car. If track times mattered to me, I would buy an Ariel Atom. But I drive on public streets. So I drive a Ferrari.