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  1. HomersSpiceRack

    Apr 21, 2018
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    I am fairly new to the forum and ownership but get the feeling that wing shields are a subject that divides opinion, however, what other badging should a 308GT4 carry?

    I ask as my 1978 model carries a single “disegno BERTONE” badge on the panel behind the drivers door. I presume there should be another behind the passenger door?

    Also was there ever a rectangular Ferrari badge alongside the number plate?

    Appreciate the year probably also effects things.
     
  2. NoGoSlow

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    GT4s had only one Disegno Bertone badge. It was on the RHS, behind the door and below the belt line. I'm not familiar with the later Ferrari badging (1976+), and look forward to hearing the expert responses.
     
  3. PDB

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    When you say “alongside the number plate”, I assume you mean the rear plate. That being the case, I’ve never seen a rectangular Ferrari emblem in that location. They generally have a chrome horse to the right of the plate and the “Dino gt4” on the boot lid. My ‘74 car also has the Ferrari script above the plate, but I’m pretty sure that isn’t original.

    Paul
     
  4. Ian Bishop

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    #4 Ian Bishop, May 10, 2018
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    I have attached Technical Bulletin 266/8 issued by Ferrari re: badging changes authorized by the factory. Prior to this the Dino 308 GT4 was issued with the following badging: Horizontal DINO badge on nose, Dino centre caps on wheels, Dino horn button, one Desegno Bertone label on right rear, rear boot lid script DINO 308 GT4. Also, wheel rims commonly would have a DINO rasied script (occasionally Fiat) in the rim part near the air valve. After 266/8, for which implementation was uneven, the nose badge should have been two badges (for old stock Series I Dino's), the horn button replaced with black horse, and a Cavallino rampante would be added to the rear plate area - my broad observation is that California cars generally received a larger Cavallino (about 4.5 inches in height), while cars from other parts appeared to get the smaller 3 inch badge) as it was dependent on dealer stock.

    By Series II cars, only a Vertical Ferrari badge on the nose, Ferrari horse wheel caps and horn button, Cavallino rampante to right of rear plate, and wheel rims would now commonly have Ferrari in the metal near the air valve. The Dino 308 GT4 boot lid script and single Bertone badge remained unchanged.

    To the best of my knowledge there would never have been a rectangular Ferrari badge on any Series II or III car by the license plate.
     

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  5. Patrick Dixon

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    Most are on the RHS but some were on the LHS, so neither is wrong.

    There were no shields, Ferrari or cavallo badges put on at the factory on either the rear or on the wings, just a nose badge and the wheel and horn centres on the later cars. Dealers and owners may have added stuff later.
     
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  6. francisn

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    Agreed Patrick. My car has Bertone badges both sides. I know it may not be original but that's how it has been for 30 years so it is staying like that. I added a Cavallino Rampante next to the number plate - on the left - don't think there was anything definitive which side - but as it was done in period by dealers I felt happy. I wouldn't want to add a long Ferrari script at the back though many have. Each to their own taste. If it came like that when you bought it and it had been like that for years then it is part of the history of the car.

    I would draw the line at wing/fender shields. That is absolutely non period for a road car. But each to their own.

    Doug Nye is his book, Dino, from the mid 70s writes that when the GT4 was rebadged series 2 they retained the rear Dino boot (trunk) chrome script as the car had been type approved as a Dino in certain markets. Who knows if that is correct? All I know is that my car was originally registered as a Ferrari in UK in Aug 79. It has both Ferrari and Dino badging so best of both worlds. Who cares anyway? (Ha - no doubt some do!)

    I was intrigued by an earlier post mentioning series 3 cars. What is the definition of that? Never heard it before. However my car (probably built Oct 78) has original electronic ignition (first introduced July 78 I believe). Do some refer that as series 3?
     
  7. BigTex

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    Early 308GTBs had the same anomaly, only one side designer badges!
    Drivers side and that changed from LH or RH steering wheel placement.

    The 308GT4 badging is an interesting story (related to slow USA sales numbers) but now with values climbing, most renovations take it all the way to original DINO emblems, as Enzo first intended.

    His only son from marriage was ill and passed at that point so, a true tribute from a grieving father.
    Anyone who has faced that would well understand!

    You have the Tech Bulletin there.
    That's the facts!.
     
  8. BigTex

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    francisn,

    All the 1979s I have seen here have indeed carried both badges, per the Tech Bulletin, unless someone had time to remove the horizontal indent of the Dino nose badge!!

    Few went to the effort.
     
  9. francisn

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    Not sure what you mean Bubba. Cars from 76 onwards didn't have the horizontal Dino badge. So any 79 cars only had the vertical Ferrari nose badge. Please explain what you are talking about. Unless of course they were unsold from 75 which is of course possible. But then they would have had the narrow grill and external fog lamps. Please explain more!
     
  10. HomersSpiceRack

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    It would appear that apart from wing shields, which I quite like, all my badges are present and correct but some fascinating information from such a simple question.
     
  11. Ian Bishop

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    My understanding is SERIES 3 applies only to / refers to US cars manufactured 1978-1980, as due to engine emissions law changes these only had 205 hp.
     
  12. francisn

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    OK - that's a very sad reduction from the Euro quoted 255 but in reality 235bhp. My euro engine was rebuilt in 1990 with stainless steel valves, high compression pistons and higher lift cams and gave 237bhp on a rolling road dyno 4 years ago. Pretty happy with that after nearly 40 years!
     
  13. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    No, I think you are right, my memory was foggy from that long ago!

    I just recall JRV did have a '79 on hand, as it had the very late option of a sunroof.
    Disregard the rest of my ramblings!!
     
  14. francisn

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    Sunroofs were always an option in the UK - probably all Euros - not just a late option. Quite a few around over here, but not to my mind a good option as they are problematical and just add to the rust problem
     

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