GTC4 Lusso V RR Sport SVR

Trade the SVR every 6 months for a new one and actually make money.

F12 as second car until the F12M comes along.

 

I'm on my first RR after driving Cayenne's.

Never ever, ever, ever again a RR!
What a poorly excuse for a high end car. Worst car I have ever owned in terms of reliability. I'm back to the new Cayenne when it's being launched or the new E63s that just got launched.

I'm sure you're pulling a late Halloween prank here. An SVR against a GTC. Never in a million years. Apples vs pears my friend.

You'll be glad I never get the change to say "told you so"!

 

i Don't understand how is possible to compare a range rover vs a Ferrari v12 ...

 

Exactly

 

RR is absolute utter rubbish not even owned by British any longer ---- if I'm not mistaken the SVR has the jaguar V8 that makes loads of annoying crackling sounds.....

@scraggy.....what on earth has got into you??

 

Horrible ride quality and lets not start on reliability for RR.

Get the Porsche. Or get an F12 at what are good prices today.

 

You're not crazy to wonder this. But in the end the comparison is nearly impossible because a Ferrari is a dream. And just about any other car is not going to be as special, it will be more ordinary. Now, for some of us, we want something more ordinary for a daily car.

I think your ordinary daily car could be this or fill in the blank with a whole host of other great choices. In my case, I like having a large BMW sedan for taking the kids to school and activities and in my area it draws no attention, which I appreciate. And another thing about your SUV is it has 4 doors. If you are going to use the backseats (children?) then its so much easier. The two door format does not work as well as a 4 door with drop offs and pick ups of children.

I can put the BMW away when those activities are done the Ferrari can come out! I like the post that suggests get something and an F12.

Now that I've mentioned all of this, I can't help but to still day dream about the GTC4... Maybe when my kids are driving themselves.... Like I said, Ferrari is a dream. And any day you can enjoy the dream is a good day....

One final consideration: I think GTC ownership likely to be a prerequisite for whatever the next LE car will be. There are no guarantees but the depreciation might not be as bad when you factor this.

 

Frankly speaking there is nothing better then daily driving a V12 Ferrari. I think life is short and why not enjoy as many moments as possible in this incredible machine. We have a Cayenne Turbo as the wife and weekend car and it's a good ride but absolutely nothing compared to the FF or GTC. Small things make the experience standout in the FF - the thumbs up and smiles everywhere, amazing interior experience, the smile you get walking up to it, the dual personalities, and the usability in all moments. I love it so much that being stuck in standstill traffic is not the end of the world. SVR is ok and the 488 is cool but both combined are still no GTC.

BTW depreciation is such a wierd thing, it's not as much as people think. Don't let that freak you out because percentage wise you will lose more on a non Ferrari any day.

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I actually have a rr sport and a ff. I like the RR as a truck to move things. It's not a Ferrari and should not be compared.

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Screw the reviews. Talk to actual owners. Journalists drive press cars for a weekend. This brand has let me and friends down on several occaisions.

Besides, driving an RR Sport will make you feel sorry everytime you get in the car for not buying a proper RR. The Sport feels and looks like a fashion whim next to a real RR.

If you want that combo of speed, space and comfort, get an Audi RS6, M5 or E63s.

 

The SVR is a great car in its class but you can't compare it to an FF. I have an FF and love it, but it will be replaced by an F12 next year as the rear seats just aren't getting enough use, IF I used the rear seats more I wouldn't sell it, and certainly not for any SUV. We have a Cayenne and Macan in the household, both great cars in their sector.

I'm not a RR guy. I get while people like them but dynamically they don't do it, even the SVR, just trying to hide its mass, but not successfully in my opinion. I also don't like the image of the car. There are plenty of yummy mummy types driving them where I live, it's a bit of a look at me in my trendy SUV, leased to the max!

Also an SVR in 3 or 4 years will depreciate heavily just like most Range Rovers do. I reckon you'd lose a lot less getting a used FF and running that for the same period.

 

Not sure I agree with that. The British own plenty of Land Rover product. We have a recently acquired RR 4.4 V8 Autobiography, which replaced a 3.0 sport. Didn't much like the sport but absolutely love the full fat RR. This is because the engine is torquey, nice sounding and relaxed, the ride is plush and the interior is beautifully appointed. Plus, it is a proper off-roader and carries four in sublime comfort.

My problem with the sport is that it is one thing, trying to add elements of another, and ends up not being the best at either. The SVR only enhances that feeling. The RR celebrates its SUV-ness and doesn't attempt to be sporting. It works great (and reliably).

The trick the FF/GTC4 pulls off is that its attempts to offer the benefits of four seats and AWD don't undermine its sporting GT nature very much. Yes, to a degree, but that degree does not make the car pointless as a sports car experience. Whereas the sport and SVR really are a little pointless. The only exception is if you are a one-car guy and you do a lot of miles, some of them off road.

The GTC4 can never be justified by cost alone - you have to want the car that combines a sporting and absorbing drive, with the world's best engine, and more practicality and all-year round usability, better than any other in automotive history. And for all that you will pay.

 

Sorry, meant current owner of JLR ;-)

I've had 2 RR autobiography, one of which we returned to LR for full refund after 16 months otherwise i was going to sue them [emoji4]

 

At first I thought that RR was for Rolls-Royce. Comparing a Rolls and a Ferrari is already strange, but comparing it to a Range Rover is quite far fetched.

 

Just bought RR sport autobio for my wife, gtc4 for me.

I feel the 2 car are quite nice to be on the same house, just no reason to compare, no matter the svr version, will always big a fast suv.

Go gtc4lusso, i feel RR Svr is a fast car, gtc4lusso is a dream

 

I too have a RR Autobiography V8 diesel (best engine for an SUV) as a daily driver/van.
Wish I would have opted for an Cayenne, RS6 or AMG. More fun and way more reliable.

Although the RR is comfortable, it is not reliable and not fun as a dd.
Especialy since my other cars are various exotics, my driver style doesn't fit driver such a heavy suv any more.

Of course, all this discussion is stricly personal and on a Ferrari forum, so we're all very biased. Driving the various cars should quickly sort out with car you'll end up with.
The SVR will btw depreciate much faster then a tastefully specced GTC or RS6. Whatever the choice you're going with, common sense has no place here. If you can afford the various options, it's an emotional desicion. So leave out common sense.

 

Guys, he's talking about getting a RR AND a Ferrari, not one or the other.

Cayenne is a great car but lose a lot of value in a short term. In the UK the RR SVR actually goes up in value. A friend of mine swaps his SVR's every 6 months and gets a new one. Keeps making money on them.

That's why I'd get an SVR and a nearly new F12, best of both worlds IMO. V12 Ferrari and a crazy SUV.

 

I think you'll find that the bubble has burst. Land Rover will pump out what ever demand there is and buyers will pay for that when the car is 3 years old. Assuming there was a waiting time for an SVR keeping up residuals it won't last and in my opinion is certainly not a reason to buy one.

 

Same car except motor if I'm not mistaken. It's TATA-owned rubbish

 

Wonderful statement, could not agree more!

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