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Guess how much the complete body weights

Discussion in '308/328' started by stratos, Jun 7, 2011.

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  1. stratos

    stratos Formula Junior

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  2. cavallo_nero

    cavallo_nero Formula 3

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  3. sp1der

    sp1der F1 Rookie

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    Would be interested to see more pictures of this car, my guess would be 23kg for the body
     
  4. stratos

    stratos Formula Junior

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    #4 stratos, Jun 7, 2011
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2011
    Doors + front section + mid section + rear section + engine cover, painted with grills fitted and "bumpers" = 42Kg (92 pounds).
     
  5. Verell

    Verell F1 Veteran
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    That's fantastic!
    Any idea what the OEM parts weigh?

    Do you have molds?
    If so, any idea on price for a set of body parts?
     
  6. stratos

    stratos Formula Junior

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    Hi,

    Yes we have molds, you can carry the complete rear section easily, even hold it with one arm...
    I need to verify the pricing but this needs patience, takes time to make and is difficult to ship/transport.
     
  7. GrayTA

    GrayTA F1 World Champ
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    Wow, that has some interesting possibilities....



    PDG
     
  8. cavallo_nero

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    Will the rear decklid fit a stock 308? i know there are some folks who expressed interest in a lightweight alternative to the factory steel deck lid. me included..

    wow! on the total weight of those parts!!!!!!
     
  9. 8valve

    8valve Formula 3

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    That looks like a serious Michelotto-type Gr.IV (or GrB?) car you are building there!!
    Fantastic!!
     
  10. SMS

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    Maybe we can get a group buy on some black ones...
     
  11. Ferraripilot

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    WOW! very very impressive

    I have some experience regarding what some of these parts weigh. All weights are painted weights

    Steel deck lid:55lbs............Fiberglass 44lbs
    Steel front clip:38lbs..........Fiberglass 32lbs
    Steel rear clip:40lbs..........Fiberglass 33lbs

    Those are the only parts I have actual weights on. The doors without any glass etc (bare) probably weigh about 29lbs each in steel and 23lbs each in fiberglass. Roof panel is not very big, so say 17lbs in steel and 14-15lbs in glass. So it sounds like the above body parts shaved at least 100lbs off of any Euro steel/glass car. The 288GTO managed to do this with body parts so it is possible, but obviously not cheap. Again, very impressive!!

    How much for the kit :)
     
  12. Ferraripilot

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    I love those big fat Avon tires with Stratos wheels. Brilliant.
     
  13. tempest411

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    I'd be willing to bet that the cost of this bodywork in a carbon/kevlar layup would cost nearly the same as the car it's going on~25-35K USD wouldn't surprise me, especially if it's made in Europe.
     
  14. tempest411

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    I just noticed...That shop has bare plate glass windows. You couldn't have that here in the U.S. All the thugs here would try and break in six seconds after the last person left for the evening. I gotta move away:(
     
  15. stratos

    stratos Formula Junior

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    You would loose that bet, full body should come at less than a third of that. However there is extensive work to be done on the car to fit it...
     
  16. 8valve

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    May I ask which chassis number the car has? And can you show pics of the engine/interior?
    Thanks, awesome project!!
     
  17. st@ven

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    Complete us door with glass, trim etc is 37 kg.

    100lbs?
    no way! I made two doors of glassfibere/honeycomb. The are as stiff as the oem ones but weight only 6,5 kg each. Complete with trim, lexan, hinges, locks etc etc. for two doors thats a gain of 61 kg or 134 lbs alone.

    Making all parts like this will probaby save 200+ kg or 440lbs


    to the OP. I would be interested in a set. I can pick it up at your shop:)
     
  18. hyenahf

    hyenahf F1 Rookie

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    very nice!

    do you sell the AP/lockheed type brakes caliper/disc too?

    regards

    hf
     
  19. stratos

    stratos Formula Junior

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    You get these from AP.
     
  20. stratos

    stratos Formula Junior

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    You are correct, the target is to get a race-ready car at less than 1000Kg. It shouldn't be too far.
     
  21. Ferraripilot

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    wow, do the doors weigh that much? That's crazy that they weigh more than a front or rear clip, or even the rear hatch for that matter.
     
  22. sp1der

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    The door glass, and electric motors for the windows are heavy items, take out the speakers and there is a chunk of weight in these items alone. Its very noticeable if you close the doors on a glass 308 and a steel 308 you can feel the weight difference.
     
  23. stratos

    stratos Formula Junior

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    US cars have steel bars in the doors, European cars don't.
     
  24. Ferraripilot

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    The steel bars aren't really bars though. More like outlines of bars and I would be surprised if they weigh a couple lbs each.


    Question: Who makes those wheels? And I am afraid to ask how much.
     
  25. stratos

    stratos Formula Junior

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    Original Campagnolo magnesium wheels. Today you can get them remade in Italy in magnesium or get aluminum replicas in the UK (compomotive) both quite expensive.
     

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