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Halo 2017

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  1. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Ouch!!!

    Don't mention it
     
  2. tifosi12

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    F1 was born from the ashes of WWII and people had a different take on life and death back then. Sadly we are becoming increasingly softer as a species
     
  3. william

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    I think F1 isn't the FIA's Number One safety priority; probably rallying is.

    With crowd control very difficult to achieve in the open, it would only take several casualties among spectators to put rallying at risk.
     
  4. william

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    It wasn't widely reported in those days; now F1 is often in the media.

    Accidents and casualties attract bad publicity for the sport, and keep the sponsors away.
     
  5. vinuneuro

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    A sterilized F1 that no one wants to watch will keep sponsors away.

    When you have the majority of drivers saying the sport is safe it's safe. When you have major crashes like Kubica and Alonso producing only minor injuries it's safe.

    If you don't want any risk of injury, stay home and don't get out of bed.
     
  6. tifosi12

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    True. We already lost Group B to accidents
     
  7. tifosi12

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    Bad advice: millions of people die in their sleep
     
  8. TheMayor

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    Vegas baby

    Or fall out of their bathtubs and showers.

    We need to ban bathing until we find out a solution.
     
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  9. Lotaz

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    A shade "halo" is the only way to go now when sunbathing.

    Body halo for the shower and bath oh and skydiving
     
  10. NEP

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    AUGUST 22, 2017

    Halo rules too late for 2018



    F1 engineers are worried the precise regulations for 'Halo' are arriving too late for 2018.

    Auto Motor und Sport reports that the cockpit protection device is not just aesthetically challenging, but will have a major impact on the design of next year's cars in terms of aerodynamics and weight.

    "But the precise Halo rules are only available from September," said correspondent Michael Schmidt.

    Force India technical boss Andy Green confirmed: "That's too late. In terms of the monocoque, time is running out."

    Green's counterpart at Toro Rosso, James Key, explained: "The centre of gravity is going up and the weight distribution moves towards the front.

    "Also we have to stiffen the cockpit sides for the load tests, which means a different carbon structure in the corresponding places."

    Safety aside, however, one potential upside to the Halo introduction is that it introduces a new area for innovation, with the FIA allowing teams to shape the upper side for aerodynamic purposes.

    "This will help to minimise the aero drawbacks," Key agrees.
     
  11. NEP

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    SEPTEMBER 4, 2017

    Special Halo colour for title leader says Todt



    Jean Todt has an idea to spice up the popularity of the 'Halo' safety innovation for 2018.

    Many drivers, insiders and fans are unhappy that the cockpit protection system will affect the aesthetics and 'DNA' of formula one from next year.

    FIA president Todt said at Monza that Halo is being brought in to keep the drivers safe, even though many of those on the grid already feel 'too safe'.

    "That is why we need responsible people leading the sport," he is quoted by Auto Motor und Sport.

    "When I announced that we will introduce Halo for the 2018 season of Formula E, there was no criticism," Todt added.

    "And also with the introduction of Halo for Formula 2 next year I hear no negative comments. This shows that people already get used to it."

    Still, Halo remains unpopular and controversial among many F1 fans.

    Todt said: "I've heard an idea I like -- that we should give the championship leader a Halo in a special colour.

    "However, I have also heard that some teams have already sold the space on the Halo to sponsors," he added.
     
  12. NEP

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    SEPTEMBER 12, 2017

    Missing Halo details make F1 teams nervous


    F1 teams are reportedly concerned about the introduction of 'Halo' for 2018.

    While the mandatory fitting of the cockpit protection system for next year was announced in July, it is believed teams are still waiting on crucial detail about how Halo must be integrated into the chassis.

    And other missing detail relates to crash testing, with Halo to be among the strongest parts of the entire car.

    The missing details mean that, at a crucial stage of development of the 2018 cars, the teams are nervous.

    "We have to get the Halo on the car for next year and that's a big challenge," Renault technical director Nick Chester said this week.

    "That will be a big deal as it changes the chassis construction."

    However, while president Jean Todt said he is open to considering different solutions in the future, the FIA is determined to press ahead with Halo for 2018.

    "It was quite a late decision compared to the project but because of the safety it's important everybody tries to work very hard on it," said Ferrari technical boss Mattia Binotto.

    "The implications are from the chassis structure point of view," he added. "So we need to make sure that we are fitting the Halo well on the chassis and the chassis resists the loads that are required by the regulations.

    "Also from an aero point of view it will certainly affect the back of the car and that has to be taken into account when designing the new car," said Binotto.
     
  13. David Lind

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    I hate the halo. Those who want to race a car with overhead structure(s) can go to sports cars, World of Outlaws or NAPCAR. So long, F-1, I've really enjoyed many of the last 51 years I have been a fan, but the sport continues to stray too far from its origins and its traditions.
     
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  14. NEP

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    Unless specifically banned, the Teams can recoup some of the costs by using the Halo as advertising space.


    SEPTEMBER 27, 2017

    Halo device to cost up to EUR 24,000
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    F1 teams are surprised about the high cost of the controversial 'Halo' safety devices that are mandatory for 2018.

    Although unpopular among many drivers, fans and insiders, the partial cockpit cover must be fitted to every car from next year.

    Germany's Auto Motor und Sport reports that, at present, three external companies have applied to the FIA to be able to supply Halo to the teams.

    "Those who meet the requirements can then sell Halo to F1, Formula 2 and Formula E teams," the magazine claims.

    But a big issue will be price, with insiders reporting that a single Halo will cost somewhere between EUR 13,000 and 24,000.

    "It will be expensive," confirmed Force India technical boss Andy Green.

    "We not only have to order Halos for the cars, but also for the FIA load tests."
     
  15. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Are we expecting to see some Aero bits and pieces on the Halo ..or has that been banned already?
     
  16. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    F1 teams are allowed to mount some aerodynamic parts to the Halo.
     
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  17. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Should be interesting ...those bits probably will be saved until Barcelona,rather than give anything away.
     
  18. jgonzalesm6

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    Mclaren played with it not to long ago.
     
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  21. Etcetera

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    The halo is a spec part made by a 3rd party and supplied to the teams. They are allowed to add to it, but not over a certain height.
     
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  22. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    No doubt they will ensure that any aero parts bolted on to the Halo will also be able to take a hit from double decker bus?

    Would be a pity if said bits smashed thru a visor etc:eek:
     
  23. jgonzalesm6

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