Hamilton deserves more respect

Hamilton deserves all the respect commanded by a 7-time world champion ... but no more. Here's what i mean:
- He's not "really" an 8-time world champ. He lost, fair & square, in 2021 and 2022. Helping hand from Masi + Cheaters Redbull in that season and the following one.. but dont let FACTS get in the way of you and your fair and sqaure interpretation...... Dont think 2021 can get any more tainted........
- His "woke politics" don't enhance the sport, at all ... but rather diminish it. This is politics and not allowed in this part of the forum, so wont discuse it.
- His constant whining, complaining, and blaming are not befitting of a true champion. Doesnt Max do this? With ****s, ****s, ****s, spastics, morons criples and other words. Glad you feel Max is not befitting of him being a true champion also ( Dont want to be a hypocrite now do we so have to apply the same standards to all right? )
- His relentless style of "entitled" driving is not only inappropriate, sad, and in constant violation of basic rules ... but in fact downright dangerous. You sure you are not talking about Crashtappen here? twice as many crashes, half the time in the sport........ Yep......... can we compare rules named after LH and Max? Max defo wins that " fair and square".........

7 clean titles v 2 tainted titles, only one of them DEMANDS respect, and its not LH, He has earnt his, not demanded it.

 

Could be done.... Schumacher and Ferrari did it for 5 straight years with the FIA AGAINST them, changing the rules every year; until 2005 when they finally succeded.

 

Can't we imagine a scenario where Red Bull does a better job than any other teams over a long period, and adapt to all the rule changes the FIA throw at them to keep winning for half a decade more at least ?
After all, it happened with McLaren, Williams, Ferrari and Mercedes. Red Bull could equally be up to the task.

 

Didn't Sainz's car catch on fire at the RBR?

 

Yep.

 

Or the scenario where everyone kept their original designs for 3 years without any technical directives and RedBull dominated.

 

Others must do their homework better.
And FIA should be neutral..

 

Hamilton deserves to be ignored until he shows up in the new car next season.

 

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/161864/hamilton-under-fire-after-reckless-driving-this-is-strictly-forbidden.html

lol

 

Woke.

Just very woke.

 

I added one for you.

 

Russell reveals reason for Hamilton’s early F1 2022 experiments (crash.net)

So the "lewis is slower because he had development parts" (fancy word for upgrades) excuse wasn't true either, then.

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No one thought it was true

 

That certainly explains why Lewis trashed Russell race pace wise after the experiments stopped.

 

+1 - Toto was quite open about LH car being one experimented on early in the season. George has talent and is fast. He should be pushing LH and Im not at all surprised he did well and in the points out scored LH. He is much younger, talented and fast. Certainly a good situation for Mercedes to have this pairing.

 

Imagine how many WDC Lewis would have if he didn't experiment so much! Maybe he'd even have a win this season. The car was certainly capable.

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Eh we will see next year. Id take Ham over Georgie boy anyday.

 

"we got upgrades on alternating weekends". I.e. both got "experiments" done, not just lewis

Ps what trashing? George with a win and pole..Lewis with neither.

 

Some people will only believe what they want to believe. Fact is that Lewis was the right driver to work on developing the car. He has more experience racing and more experience in the process of car development with Mercedes. Those developments could have helped or hindered him and haters will always spin the narrative to suit their viewpoint. There is no doubt that George is the future and a super talented top level driver (this is why he is at Mercedes). Lewis is towards the end of his career but still operating at a super high level. Maybe not at his peak but still MUCH higher than most of the field can dream of. Alonso is in a similar situation and I think you would be foolish to say that Ocon is the better driver despite the fact he outscored Fernando in 2022.

I will add that the armchair experts swore up and down early in the season that George Russell would move out the way for Lewis because of team orders, contract details, blah blah blah. Fact is that in Brazil there is plenty of evidence to show that Hamilton worked to help George win that race and that there were no orders to favor Lewis. Of course that would mean admitting that they were wrong which of course never happens as they are 'experts'.

 

It's not really about believing what we want to believe. The narrative by teamLH was that only he was doing the development work, that's why he was slow (funny wording that, development work. In other teams it's known as upgrades but whatever. Russell quite clearly states they both did development work, it's not about a narrative here. Why would russell claim this if it was a blatant lie?

 

Every driver experiments. We don't know the extent of those experiments or what they contained. We can see results though.

https://talksport.com/sport/motorsport/1117707/lewis-hamilton-mercedes-formula-1-george-russell-ross-brawn/

https://www.racefans.net/2022/06/11/hamiltons-recent-deficit-to-russell-is-due-to-set-up-experiments-says-wolff/

Brawn and Toto must be lying as well then?

Or the fact when the experiments stopped Russell never beat Hamilton on pure pace barring safety cars or DNF or car damage.

Look at the season results here. Aside from the first race in Bahrain, where Lewis got a podium, George magically trashes Hamilton up until around June. Then he magically starts falling behind. What happened with George? Did he choke?

https://www.skysports.com/f1/teams/mercedes/results

Draw your own conclusions.

I mean there is arguing in bad faith and then there is actually looking at the data.

 

have you ever known Toto open his gob and speak the truth?

Read what Russell said. Try and understand it. They received upgrades on alternate weekends. Lewis struggled with the car so had to experiment with setups.

The difference between Russell and Lewis even in the 2nd half of the season was absolutely marginal. Surely someone nominated as the GOAT best of the field would have total command over his brand new teammate, especially give how long he's been with the manufacturer and this team?

 

https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/f1briefings/news/f1-news-lewis-hamilton-wins-british-driver-of-the-year-award-as-fans-debate-deservedness-jd22

Lewis Hamilton Wins British Driver of the Year 2022.

 

So Mercedes new comer gets a pole, win, and beats Lewis in points for 2022, yet Lewis wins the award. I'd have to believe there were some other British drivers in other series that kicked some butt in 2022 as well. Even a Brit has to be sickened by the favoritism this guy gets.