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  1. pozzi

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  2. cantsleepnk

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    Thanks ,this is not a repost. In the US we didn't get to see this particular piece on TV.
     
  3. Matt999

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    So it was not a transmission failure, he simply pushed Neutral?
    That'd be hilarious...
     
  4. 62 250 GTO

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    That was the Canadian broadcast.

    I thought it was noted that he entered the "start/ grid sequence" and had to reinitialize the system.
     
  5. Qvb

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    There is no possible way I would ever believe that there is a button within thumbs reach that would turn off the car, with just one push. Cars would be stopped all around the track.
     
  6. Ambassiatore

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    ...but It would make sense, when you start the PIT LANE SECUENCE the car automatically waits for the pit lane signal...and opens the gas cap, regulates speed to 80kph...

    if the car gets no signal...how it disengages the secuence?...CTR-ALT-DEL?

    makes sense resetting the secuence...although nobody has nor confirmed nor denied such "mistake" is possible...maybe when he was talking with the pits, he was moving his hands in anger after his SCAPE zone EXCURSION?
     
  7. 62 250 GTO

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    Why would he be moving his hands in anger?


    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63613

    McLaren deny Hamilton caused gearbox error

    McLaren have rejected suggestions that Lewis Hamilton's gearbox failure in the Brazilian Grand Prix was due to him pressing the wrong button on his steering wheel.

    Hamilton was seen slowing down almost to a halt on lap eight of Sunday's race, dropping from sixth to 18th place, but was then able to regain speed.

    The incident sparked rumours suggesting the 22-year-old pushed the wrong button on his steering wheel, which in turn left his car in neutral until he was given instructions over the radio how to reset the system.

    Compounding these rumours was a report in Montreal's newspaper La Presse, which quotes Hamilton directly as saying he indeed pushed the wrong button.

    However, a source close to the Hamilton family has described the report as "absolute rubbish", telling autosport.com that Hamilton has not spoken to the Canadian newspaper or said anything as such to anyone.

    A McLaren spokesperson also denied the report and said the failure was not down to human error.

    "We can confirm that the temporary gear shifting problem Lewis suffered on lap eight of the Brazilian Grand Prix was due to a default in the gearbox that selected neutral for a period of time," she said.

    "It was not as a result of Lewis pressing an incorrect button on his steering wheel."

    McLaren F1 CEO Martin Whitmarsh also ruled out driver error and said the likely reason is hydraulic valve failure.

    "It was a gearbox problem, and it went into forced-neutral and changing down seemed to rectify it - it might be mechanical, but we doubt it," he told Autosport magazine.

    "If it was something mechanical, they usually don't fix themselves. It could be electronics software - but there's no evidence in the analysis to support that. Could be a sensor - but again, there's no evidence in the data recordings.

    "So it would appear that the barrels that change gear went out of control - and out of control of the driver - and that's probably hydraulic.

    "That could be either a very small Moog servo control valves that were interfered with by a tiny piece of debris or they are sensitive to magnetic interference - something generated a magnetic field which caused the valve to misbehave."
     
  8. PaulVincent

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    Well, if McLaren says it, I'll be sure to believe it (especially after Stephanygate).
     
  9. Remy Zero

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    i don't understand. he already admitted his error. why is Mclaren protecting him for?
     
  10. Brakefade

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    It had to have been the pit lane speed limiter. Check it out.

    http://www.mclaren.com/features/technical/interactive_steering_wheel.php

    My guess is when the system didn't receive any signal from the pit lane it must've gotten confused. I didn't actually see Hamilton tinker with any of the buttons, except frantically hitting the gear shift paddles. He probably had to wait it out for Windows to restart or something. Nevertheless... *coughchokecough*

    Thanks for the video.
     
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    #12 pozzi, Oct 26, 2007
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    The wheel on this link above is from 2005 car.


    Here is the real driving wheel:

    http://www.amalgamcollection.com/en/product/product_detail.php?SKU=MP422ASW&list_type=&list_value=&PHPSESSID=12da7ef2f10fb36a2264ced20504623e


    Mclaren changed the website photo.

    This is the real driving wheel:
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    ...there is something weird in this for sure, but why protect the kid saying a valve went nuts?...was it that bad?
     
  15. Far Out

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    Aren't next years ECUs developed by MCL and Microsoft? We'll see those things happening more often next season ;)
     
  16. Ambassiatore

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    ...damn...the guy was trying to turn off the traction control?...what the heck was he doing?
     
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    ...does McLiaren feel they havent lied enough this year?...they changed the picture...I bet you Ron has no Idea of any of this, nor nobody in his company has seen that steering wheel before...

    just like Ol´Phil says...could happen to a nicer bunch of guys...
     
  19. SonomaRik

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    oooooooh, good catch.

    Hope MSoft learns how to prevent hacking: talk about spy possibilities
     
  20. Brakefade

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    Can you imagine if a 3rd party hacked in and decided to change the outcome of a race on the last lap. I hope the teams win this battle over standarized ECUs.
     
  21. cantsleepnk

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    Thanks for the second video.

    I know I'm stupid but I'm not THAT stupid. Someone please tell me that he didn't do that on purpose did he ????? I'm talking about the second video.

    WTF ? Why did he do that???
     
  22. jm3

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    The button labeled "start" is actually the scrambled radio channel to Charlie Whiting.

    But.. perhaps pressing buttons in a certain sequence does enable some forbidden function, and thats why McLaren is being so "cagey". It has been seen before.
     
  23. Ambassiatore

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    there are two buttons there...the (+TC) which allows a greater rate of correction by the Traction Control but sacrifices speed...the other button is the N for starting the pit lane secuence am I right?
     
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    If the picture in post 17 is correct he clearly pressed the N button on purpose.

    Look at this video. WTF??

    http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=R1Ca2jhFlPE
     
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    Looks quite intentional. You can see it in the 1st also.


    >WTF ? Why did he do that???[/QUOTE]

    Who knows, maybe that N button is pronounced 'their wish is my command',
    and was part of the Stepneygate package,
    and RD and Luca are mouthing off on cue.
     

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