And Horner and his idiot partner Marko would have been saying racing incident in response to ANY penalty on Max!!!!
Max has never done this either lol. Talk to Charles! Let’s be clear - when you take outside line being pushed out is not something unusual at all.
Sorry, very different scenarios. One thing is when you go on the outside AFTER braking, another thing is when you are on the outside BUT ON THE RACING LINE, and the guy on the inside will certainly wash out because he knows he is on the wrong line.
No in general the outside of a corner generally leads to less than optimal results. That’s just utterly obvious when attempting a pass on the outside.
Look at the contradiction you just wrote. Verstappen was not trying to overtake Hamilton, it was the other way around.
Strange, I mostly see people thinking Hamilton is at fault, some people who think it’s a racing accident and the Hamilton fans who use everything they can think of to blame Verstappen.
I was in the passenger seat of an F355 challenge with Eliot Forbes Robinson at the wheel one afternoon about 15 years ago at TWS. I noticed that in T9 (a 90 MPH 180º turn to the right immediately followed by a 90º turn to the left. My normal line was to enter T9 from the (left) outside and bring the car in as T9 exist and immediately steer into T10. EFR, on the other hand, kept it rather tight in to T9, so I ask him about that after the stint. He said he took it tight because "that is where other cars get their nose up under you and take the corner away."
Re read everything I wrote. Zero mention of any specific incident much less references to overtake. A reference to pushed off track. Something that never happens to those on the outside lol.
Here is my take. F..k F1. Max got screwed and now all the drivers and teams don't want to piss off the viewers and jeopardize their millions of dollars so they will all come together for the good of the sport. BS. Protect the income stream at all costs. I don't care to watch anymore. Got better things to do.
It's ALWAYS the responsibility of the overtaking driver to make a clean pass. Hamilton failed to make a clean pass and was penalized. The only debate is if the penalty was enough. Most agree it was a weak penalty for punting off your nearest competitor in the championship. Let it be said that I'm not a Hamilton hater and I respect his accomplishments.
It should have been a 3 grid penalty so that the driver who caused the crash cannot benefit from knocking out his main rival. Giving a time penalty was not the remedy.
Not true, it's both drivers responsibilities. That's what the rules state, and if you think about it, it would be impossible to overtake at all if the leading driver doesn't give you the room. There is only one racing line around the vast majority of F1 tracks. What I found interesting, is that from the failed Red Bull protest it emerged that VER entered Copse 1.5km/h faster than on his fastest qualifying lap. That's on lap 1 of the GP proper, with the car at it's heaviest and slowest. So VER played his part in the accident, and possibly wouldn't have made the corner anyway.