Harry Metcalfe twitter convo re: Ferrari Dino v6 and Roma and the Maserati MC20

Basically:

Harry Metcalfe was on Twitter this morning in a conversation that was basically:

• V6 Ferrari "Dino" was cancelled due to it potentially ending their EU emissions exemptions from increased sales volumes.
  
  
• That car has become the Maserati MC20
  
  
• The Ferrari Roma was originally the Maserati Alfieri.

Pictures were then posted of the Alfieri prototype and the Roma and there is a very big resemblance.

Wanted to share some info. Speculation normally isn't worth much but Metcalfe is a classy guy and wouldn't idly spread FUD.

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Everything is correct.
In a recent past , California was born as a Maserati

 

california portofio roma - all maseratis

 

I find it funny how Maserati made the big to do about "no more Ferrari based engines" and here we are.

 

Fiat owned 49% of Maser from 1989-1992, then 100% of it in 1993-1997 then again in 2006-present

Ferrari (itself owned Fiat) - bought 50% of Maserati in 1997 and then two years later bought 100% of Maserati.

So between 1997-2005, Ferrari owned controlling interest in Maserati. That's why dealerships had Ferrari/Maserati under one roof. (remember that?)
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It should come as no surprise, then my favorite Maserati models are the ones that came when the house of Maserati was Enzo's adopted family.

• 3200 GT/4200 GT (Known as Coupe' here)
• MC12 (Enzo Variant)
• QP V
• GranTurismo/GranCabrio

I still consider these more Ferrari lite, then Maserati plus. I would be proud to own any of these, along with the Cali/Roma. Afterall they all (sans 3200) have the beating heart of a Maranello forged soul. Ferrari to me is foremost the engine after all.

Announced to regrettable fanfare, not excitement - you're confusing it with the push for a recent electrical overhaul. If anything, the most exciting recent news is the Trofeo level coming to the Ghibli and QP.

As for his speculation, you do know there is a V6 Hybrid already making the rounds in Maranello? That Ferrari had decided long ago to go over the 10,000 cap?

@OmbryAmbry you seem to enjoy doing a lot of 'negging' around here.

 

Whether badged as a Ferrari Maserati or Alfa what counts is what the car is. If the MC20 is a stylish light Cf tubed car with proper suspension a arms not struts etc.I'm happy. Ie what the 4c should have been.

If ferrari developed it mechanicaly then its probably good, maybe not having the ferrari badge means a car can be more pure/focussed. The Dino wasnt badged a ferrai either. Who cares about the badge. In fact the Ferrari badge carries negative stigma and living up to the badge probably means a car has excess frippery, sometimes less is more.

I see the v8 Ghibli and Quatroporte now claim ferrari v8 power, were those not always ferrai motors/blocks.

 

Just saw the MC 20 reveal. CF tub but Oh lardy +3200lbs and Im assuming thats the usual FCA dry weight, why bother with CF.
They called it a "race car for the road", then went on to say its uncompromized which sounded exciting untill they went on to say uncompromized means it has a comfortable and great interior and good ride for the road so in other words another compromised sportscar/Gt.

 

I fear like all Maserati cars since the 1980's it will start to fall apart in 5 years. Nice looking cars for sure..but they rapidly turn into money sucking crap cans.

 

I did like the prior gen Quatroporte in auto 2005ish. Really nice design, 430 motor and with At worked well, plus they really handles nicely. But yeah I hear they suck money.
Biturbo probably the worst car made in the 80's, even worse than a TR8, but the 80s quatroporte is something special from that era, but yeah a crap can.

Still its 2020 and if we can have great reliable alfas, maybe...nah youre probably right a tech laden masser is a going to be torture.

 

I can't speak of 80-90's Maserati, but my QP5 is 8 years old and has given me only minor problems that I've been able to sort out myself. I would say par for the course if you get any vintage Ferrari too.