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  1. BigBirds4RE

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    #1 BigBirds4RE, Aug 16, 2006
    I am looking at a car that needs the floor pan replaced. Seeking information to how hard that might be. I intend to hammer out the dents or buy replacement panels if it is available. Is the passenger compartment still a tubular construction like a 308 or is it a true unibody? Would anyone have a idea what they might run approx new?
     
  2. GCalo

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    #2 GCalo, Aug 16, 2006
    I can give you the P/N's, prices, and availability as soon as I can get into the site to which I have access for these items.

    Hackers got to it and did a great deal of damage. It's taking longer than they thought to get it up to speed.

    You can imagine what's involved to maintain all the drawings, prices, and part descriptions!

    As soon as I can I'll post those for you.
     
  3. BigTex

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    #3 BigTex, Aug 16, 2006
    No, man 348 is the first Fcar unibody...FoH can do it I'm sure, they have HUGE tech resources there.....


    Sorry to hear of the hack....

    Whole different deal ,from the old tube frames.
     
  4. BigBirds4RE

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    #4 BigBirds4RE, Aug 16, 2006
    thx
     
  5. BigBirds4RE

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    #5 BigBirds4RE, Aug 16, 2006
    So once the floorpans are out the car looses its rigidness, which means this needs to be done on a frame machine? Don't know crap about this kind of stuff. Been watching that Dino restoration, I wouldn't have that luxury of taking it out and still having a rigid car, needs to stay on framer till replaced?

    Am I making sense?
     
  6. BigTex

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    #6 BigTex, Aug 16, 2006
    Call Ferrari of Houston...they are TOTALLY CERTIFIED to rebuild all the new aluminum stuff....360s were a Brave New World...

    Some welding, some glue......LOL! It is awesome to watch.......
     
  7. BigTex

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    #7 BigTex, Aug 16, 2006
    That said, I do a lot of my stuff "out in the sticks, off Highway 6"*


    *ZZ Top, "Master of Sparks" Tres Hombres

    I'd think cutting into a 348 was serious business........
     
  8. Miltonian

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    #8 Miltonian, Aug 16, 2006
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    What's wrong with your floor pan? Please explain. Rust? Accident damage?

    If the side members are intact and straight, you could probably remove the floor pan without badly misaligning the car. Removing the doors would help. If the problem is localized, you could cut and patch the damaged area, rather than replacing the entire pan. You can take a flat section of metal, bend flanges onto it, roll the stiffening ribs into it, tack it into place, then seam weld. I had it done to one of my old Lancias. I have new floor pans for my old Fiat out in the garage, I've cut out both sides of the old floor and lined up the new pans, they just need to be welded into place. Just like it was done at the factory.

    Here's a picture of a stack of 348 floor pans. They apparently don't come as left and right sides, only as an assembly.
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  10. BigBirds4RE

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    #10 BigBirds4RE, Aug 16, 2006
    That is exactly what I need for a 348 I am looking at. Bottom is banged up a bunch. Driveable but the seats sit higher than they should.
     
  11. BigTex

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    #11 BigTex, Aug 16, 2006
    Tha's amazing.......

    A big part....call FoH for worst case $$$$. Where are you?
     
  12. BigBirds4RE

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    #12 BigBirds4RE, Aug 16, 2006
    That part has to be expensive. Milt do you think it could be done in a decent way or are we talking about major disassembly to do replace this. The engine is coming out anyhow for a service, and the carpet will be getting replaced. Am I or a shop far along the way, WAIT all the crap underneath heading to the front needs to be dropped also!! I just have no idea what this might turn into?
     
  13. BigTex

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    #13 BigTex, Aug 16, 2006
    Does it have KNobby tires mounted on the darn thing?
     
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    #14 BigTex, Aug 16, 2006
    cooling lines, shift linkage and wiring...not much there........
     
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    #15 BigBirds4RE, Aug 16, 2006
    Chicago, that a long as way to haul it. Your talking $1,000 each way on the trailer. Plus to do it I think the motor and tanks get dropped and all that crap under the center needs to drop.
     
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    #16 BigTex, Aug 16, 2006
    LFSC then........find a dealer that has handled a few 348 Challenge cars.....;)
     
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    #17 BigBirds4RE, Aug 16, 2006
    No but Fatso number 1 was in it, the guy weighed over 400 lbs. I am not pulling your "winch" he really was packing that much weight. There are some bad hits underneath.
     
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    #18 BigBirds4RE, Aug 16, 2006
    You really think that is the best because they know the unibody? Contintental farms the work out, I forget who. Wonder if LFSC does the same or keeps in house? I think the car is priced $10,000 below market due to this. This sounds like a $6,000 repair. Than I gotta ask myself is it worth the hassle. Car is being offered for $26,000 firm but it needs a full service ($6,000 safe #), this situation ($6,000), tires, paint touchup ($1,500) and a few other minor gremlins. Oops, forgot the seat belt crap.

    Tough call.
     
  19. fatbillybob

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    #19 fatbillybob, Aug 16, 2006
    this is not a problem to replace and it is not really strutural in the sence that if you cut it out everything will fall apart. You can cut out and weld back in wihtout holding in jig. It is much better to repair what you have. If you are not rusted out it is repairable. It is alot more work than you think to drill out all the tack welds and take out the old pan move all the shifter stuff and gas pedal etc.
     
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    #20 No Doubt, Aug 16, 2006
    It's only $820 for the complete 348 floorpan: http://www.eurospares.co.uk/partsListing.asp?M=1&Mo=434&A=2&B=23691&S=&ID4=1022985

    Labor might be a bit more, though!
     
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    #21 Ricambi America, Aug 16, 2006

    NO. That is GD only, and unless BigBird is suddenly living on the island and enjoying clotted cream with his warm beer, it will not fit at all. He needs either 70000607 or 63336300. Shipping from the UK will cost a lot -- in the $600 range, based on dim's.

    Frankly, the whole "deal" on this car seems like a gigantic red flag. Bent floor pan, priced "under" market, needs major service, etc. etc. I'd keep looking... there are plenty of 348's out there. Why settle?
     
  22. BigBirds4RE

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    #22 BigBirds4RE, Aug 17, 2006
    That not a good deal at all is it? Curious can you give me a price on that part since you have number?
     
  23. Miltonian

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    #23 Miltonian, Aug 17, 2006
    If you punch up part #63336300 (which is apparently the correct part number) on the Eurospares site, it says the cost is 6,246 POUNDS, which is somewhere around $11,000!! Plus shipping!

    By the way, "GD" means "guida destra", which is Right Hand Drive.

    If the floor pan has been bent enough to raise the height of the seats, it seems likely that the outer sills are also bent. It's all repairable, but it would only be economically feasible if you could do the fabrication work yourself. And it could have damaged shift cables, brake lines, A/C hoses, wiring bundles, etc.
     

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